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[YSCCC]

Definitely, and when you think the guy lying is the reasonable one you are too far gone as well.

Guy literally said - on August 2nd - that he has an overclocked 13600k. Working fine. No mention of rejected rmas or anything of that sort. But somehow now it became a dead 13600k and Intel refused to RMA it before the news came to the surface.

But I'm the unreasonable one. Sure.

Of course you are, his post originally was stating at 2th Aug, he got a 13600k which was originally overclocked (didn't mentioned without overvolting or not), which was unstable by then and need an overvolt by a few mV to get stable, which, is degradation, and in normal circumstances, not manually overvolting the CPU is still considered in spec by intel. He never mentioned did he RMA to intel and got declined before the news. pointing others as lyer without proof is... untrustworthy at best

 

[TheHerald]

Of course you are, his post originally was stating at 2th Aug, he got a 13600k which was originally overclocked (didn't mentioned without overvolting or not), which was unstable by then and need an overvolt by a few mV to get stable, which, is degradation, and in normal circumstances, not manually overvolting the CPU is still considered in spec by intel. He never mentioned did he RMA to intel and got declined before the news. pointing others as lyer without proof is... untrustworthy at best

An oced cpu being unstable down the line can be due to a myriad reasons. You didn't stress it properly before, temps went up in the summer or your cpu degraded due to extra voltage. That type of degradation has nothing to do with intel anyways. Increasing the cpu frequency automatically increases the voltage even if you don't touch it yourself.

So his cpu worked fine oced but now he got a RMA rejected... Bro...

Guy claimed in the very thread that Intel is getting slapped around in desktop performance yet he also claims he has / had a 13600k, a 14600k,a 13700k and a 13900ks. I guess he likes buying cpus that get slapped around

 

[YSCCC]

An oced cpu being unstable down the line can be due to a myriad reasons. You didn't stress it properly before, temps went up in the summer or your cpu degraded due to extra voltage. That type of degradation has nothing to do with intel anyways. Increasing the cpu frequency automatically increases the voltage even if you don't touch it yourself.

So his cpu worked fine oced but now he got a RMA rejected... Bro...

Guy claimed in the very thread that Intel is getting slapped around in desktop performance yet he also claims he has / had a 13600k, a 14600k,a 13700k and a 13900ks. I guess he likes buying cpus that get slapped around

I don't see any contradiction here bud, back then he assumed what you said in the first paragraph, so getting declined RMA and swallowed it, so getting another chip, be it 13700k or 13900ks to replace the one without getting a new mobo with monstrous power draw but still performs makes sense, especially having confident on OCing without massive overvolting, like setting the vcore at 1.35v and just tinker around the multiplier until the max stable voltage.

So after which, when the truth of it being a microcode issue making the should be fine settings into suicidal voltages confirms that indeed it was the CPU issue, and after wards, the 13600k got successfully RMA into a 14600k. And all the purchase was done before the RPL disaster get confirmed.

While the performance got slapped around by Zen 4 especially considering power draw, when one already owns a LGA1700 board, getting a completely new system vs a pure CPU change easily values in double the spending, so back then, assuming the RPL is not at fault and get the other RPL chip is a fine decision, which, after the admit by intel of the issue, becomes a bad decision, how difficult is to understand that?

 

[TheHerald]

OK man, whatever

 

[Pierce2623]

Definitely, and when you think the guy lying is the reasonable one you are too far gone as well.

Guy literally said - on August 2nd - that he has an overclocked 13600k. Working fine. No mention of rejected rmas or anything of that sort. But somehow now it became a dead 13600k and Intel refused to RMA it before the news came to the surface.

But I'm the unreasonable one. Sure.

Lying again. In August I didn’t have the chip installed in anything because it had started acting hinky so I went onto AM5. That’s after I had already had an RMA refused and quit it using because i was having soft crashes without BSODs. At that point in time nobody knew that would be covered under RMA. I have no idea what I wrote then because I’m not weird enough to check post histories but I can assure you I wasn’t claiming in August that I had that chip running in anything in any machine at that time.