Question Ryzen Master Curve Optimizer

[Frigozzo]

I don't want to overclock but since there is the option to apply the curve optmizer to all core would you guys recommend using it?
Also i was interested in the eco-mode to switch to when i'm doing light work.
But i never used the ryzen master app except to check on temperatures and frequency

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I don't want to overclock but since there is the option to apply the curve optmizer to all core would you guys recommend using it?
Also i was interested in the eco-mode to switch to when i'm doing light work.
But i never used the ryzen master app except to check on temperatures and frequency

Hey there,

Yes, RM is good for a once click solution. Let it run (it may take hours, and might restart a number of times). Once done, it will tell you the all core offset. It gives you the option to apply the new settings in the bios, but I found when using it previously, that I had to go into the bios and apply the offset manually. My CPU was running with a -30 offset on all cores.

With all of that said, these things can be done from the bios without RM. But it involves a lot of testing in the users part to see the results. RM does the testing for you.

Let us know how you get on.

 

[Frigozzo]

Hey there,

Yes, RM is good for a once click solution. Let it run (it may take hours, and might restart a number of times). Once done, it will tell you the all core offset. It gives you the option to apply the new settings in the bios, but I found when using it previously, that I had to go into the bios and apply the offset manually. My CPU was running with a -30 offset on all cores.

With all of that said, these things can be done from the bios without RM. But it involves a lot of testing in the users part to see the results. RM does the testing for you.

Are we talking about a lot of settings? I don't really like to put my hands in the bios that much

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Are we talking about a lot of settings? I don't really like to put my hands in the bios that much

There would be a few alright. Given that, then give RM a try. It's pretty straight forward and does bring results. Putting in the offsets is actually very straight forward, but it's done in the bios too.

 

[Frigozzo]

There would be a few alright. Given that, then give RM a try. It's pretty straight forward and does bring results. Putting in the offsets is actually very straight forward, but it's done in the bios too.

So i just let it apply the settings in the app and then also in the bios?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

So i just let it apply the settings in the app and then also in the bios?

Try just the app first, then check the bios to see if the values have changed. If they haven't changed, then manually enter them. When entering them manually be sure to select the '-' minus offset and not the '+' positive.

 

[Kona45primo]

You can optimize your curves and it will give benefits. When I used the CO it recommended -30 across the board. I ended up doing -30 on all except for the 2 preferred (star) cores shown in Ryzen Master. I did -15 on the gold and -20 on the silver. Anything lower then that would cause occasional issues with the +200mhz boost override I also added. 5700x

 

[Hotrod2go]

Don't use RM, its bloatware & will weigh down your system at the desktop. Do all the PBO settings in bios, test & if stable under daily OS conditions, then good to go.

 

[kerberos_20]

Don't use RM, its bloatware & will weigh down your system at the desktop. Do all the PBO settings in bios, test & if stable under daily OS conditions, then good to go.

RM doesnt run in background

 

[Viking2121]

I haven't used Ryzen Master since first gen Ryzen, But I would play with Curve optimizer, its not really an overclock, It just changes where to apply more voltage at a given clock speed, You can increase your all core boost by playing with curve optimizer as the CPU just wont need to dump a ton of voltage when it doesn't need to.

You have to be careful though, Too much of an negative offset can make the CPU or cores unstable, and you may not even see it, but you may just have random things crash every now and then, or a random BSOD out of nowhere even though a stress test was fine for hours, I got BSOD's at idle if I had 1 core that was unstable, or I had issues once with Windows update, I thought windows just being windows, it was the Curve optimizer messing with something.

It can take some time to get each core as low as it can go, I got one core that will refuse to go below -12, but others that will happily go -30.

I use this, this will help find what core doesn't like an offset value, its not always guaranteed to find a unstable core though, if it fines one, it will yell at you in the CMD window, and you can fix it.

https://github.com/sp00n/corecycler

Good Luck!

 

[Hotrod2go]

RM doesnt run in background

The last time I used RM was with Zen+ in win 10 & it was buggy as... never touched it since.

 

[CountMike]

The last time I used RM was with Zen+ in win 10 & it was buggy as... never touched it since.

Last versions are working fine and even have refinements for Zen5. Still, it's just SW and so dependent and influenced by OS and other SW. Most if not all automatic OC and other settings are actually mild comparing to what you can force thru BIOS/UEFI. It's main value is in monitoring.

 

[Hotrod2go]

Last versions are working fine and even have refinements for Zen5. Still, it's just SW and so dependent and influenced by OS and other SW. Most if not all automatic OC and other settings are actually mild comparing to what you can force thru BIOS/UEFI. It's main value is in monitoring.

Yes, I'm sure its probably better than when it first came out some yrs ago but still I agree with your summation of its resource use. As for monitoring, HWiNFO is the best choice imo. If that app is good enough for AMD, Intel, Dell, Gigabyte & Asus, heck even NASA is claimed to use it. Must be something good about it to use that much.

 

[CountMike]

Yes, I'm sure its probably better than when it first came out some yrs ago but still I agree with your summation of its resource use. As for monitoring, HWiNFO is the best choice imo. If that app is good enough for AMD, Intel, Dell, Gigabyte & Asus, heck even NASA is claimed to use it. Must be something good about it to use that much.

It's good for "Fast and dirty" monitoring without encumbering system, doesn't influence benchmarks like HWinfo.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

doesn't influence benchmarks like HWinfo.

Did you mean HWMon there?

 

[CountMike]

Did you mean HWMon there?

No. HWMon is almost useless with AMD.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

No. HWMon is almost useless with AMD.

I may have misread your previous post. I use HWInfo, and with or without it active I've never seen it influence benchmarks. Results would be practically exactly the same with less than 1% variance.

 

[CountMike]

I may have misread your previous post. I use HWInfo, and with or without it active I've never seen it influence benchmarks. Results would be practically exactly the same with less than 1% variance.

Without actively running, none have any influence on benchmarks, may be relatively small but enough to skew results. RM doesn't.