Ryzen or i7

[Renevance]

Hello all,
Sorry if you've seen me post this question before- I haven't gotten a straight or deterring answer yet so I just wanted to clarify.
I just got my new, Acer Predator XB271HU, and it's fantastic. My GTX 1080 does well but I don't reach a solid 144hz @ 1440p on a less demanding game such as Overwatch. I think this may be due to a bottleneck by my CPU, which is an i5 4590. The question is, should I upgrade my CPU? If I do, will I be able to get 144fps consistently? If I should upgrade, what should I upgrade to? I only game. I may record a video from time to time, but I'm not a content maker. I do however prioritize multitasking. I want to be able to game at 2560x1440p @ 144hz while also listening to a video on YouTube aswell as have multiple tabs open. I'm not only upgrading my CPU since I need a new MOBO for the different socket, and I thought I might as well get new RAM too- 8GB DDR3 will become out of date soon, I've heard. I might add that I won't be overclocking too much. If I get the Ryzen, I might just tweak the clock speed a bit, but I definitely wont push it too hard. My cooling isn't the best.
Right now I have two options- get an i7 7700 (non K) or get the new Ryzen 7 1700 or similiar. Please advise me on which to pick of the two combo's I have chosen.

Ryzen:
RAM:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TsfmP6/msi-b350m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b350m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox

OR

Intel:
RAM-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PZjWGX/msi-b250m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9mRFf7/intel-core-i7-7700-36ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700

 

[Herc08]

So being that you are only gaming, yet you want to multi-task, you may want to consider 16GB (8GBx2) and get the Ryzen CPU. It will help you get the most out of your gaming as well. Also, getting the 1600 will be the better value.

However, what are your usage and temps for CPU and GPU?

 

[elbert]

Ryzen has a 15% benchmark advantage and can overclock to match the 1800X. I would suggest getting faster RAM as those may only run at 1833 or 2133. Get a nice set of 3000 so it leasts hit 2666.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3887vs3917

 

[ayushde]

Hello all,
Sorry if you've seen me post this question before- I haven't gotten a straight or deterring answer yet so I just wanted to clarify.
I just got my new, Acer Predator XB271HU, and it's fantastic. My GTX 1080 does well but I don't reach a solid 144hz @ 1440p on a less demanding game such as Overwatch. I think this may be due to a bottleneck by my CPU, which is an i5 4590. The question is, should I upgrade my CPU? If I do, will I be able to get 144fps consistently? If I should upgrade, what should I upgrade to? I only game. I may record a video from time to time, but I'm not a content maker. I do however prioritize multitasking. I want to be able to game at 2560x1440p @ 144hz while also listening to a video on YouTube aswell as have multiple tabs open. I'm not only upgrading my CPU since I need a new MOBO for the different socket, and I thought I might as well get new RAM too- 8GB DDR3 will become out of date soon, I've heard. I might add that I won't be overclocking too much. If I get the Ryzen, I might just tweak the clock speed a bit, but I definitely wont push it too hard. My cooling isn't the best.
Right now I have two options- get an i7 7700 (non K) or get the new Ryzen 7 1700 or similiar. Please advise me on which to pick of the two combo's I have chosen.

Ryzen:
RAM:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TsfmP6/msi-b350m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b350m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox

OR

Intel:
RAM-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PZjWGX/msi-b250m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9mRFf7/intel-core-i7-7700-36ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700

Normally, I'd recommend the Ryzen CPU but since you are into high refresh rate gaming, I'd say get the i7. I'd even recommend getting the 7700k and OCing it a bit. While the Ryzen CPU's are a solid option, and beat the i7 CPUs across the board, they can't really crack 144 Hz in quite a few titles.

 

[artk2219]

Hello all,
Sorry if you've seen me post this question before- I haven't gotten a straight or deterring answer yet so I just wanted to clarify.
I just got my new, Acer Predator XB271HU, and it's fantastic. My GTX 1080 does well but I don't reach a solid 144hz @ 1440p on a less demanding game such as Overwatch. I think this may be due to a bottleneck by my CPU, which is an i5 4590. The question is, should I upgrade my CPU? If I do, will I be able to get 144fps consistently? If I should upgrade, what should I upgrade to? I only game. I may record a video from time to time, but I'm not a content maker. I do however prioritize multitasking. I want to be able to game at 2560x1440p @ 144hz while also listening to a video on YouTube aswell as have multiple tabs open. I'm not only upgrading my CPU since I need a new MOBO for the different socket, and I thought I might as well get new RAM too- 8GB DDR3 will become out of date soon, I've heard. I might add that I won't be overclocking too much. If I get the Ryzen, I might just tweak the clock speed a bit, but I definitely wont push it too hard. My cooling isn't the best.
Right now I have two options- get an i7 7700 (non K) or get the new Ryzen 7 1700 or similiar. Please advise me on which to pick of the two combo's I have chosen.

Ryzen:
RAM:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TsfmP6/msi-b350m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b350m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox

OR

Intel:
RAM-https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDTrxr/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-1-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk16gx4m1a2400c14
MOBO- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PZjWGX/msi-b250m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250m-gaming-pro
CPU- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9mRFf7/intel-core-i7-7700-36ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700

I dont think either of them are guaranteed to get you 144 across the board, but the I7 will be closer in Overwatch. That being said, if you plan on keeping the machine for a while I would go with Ryzen, the I7 is fine for NOW. But a year or two from now i can see it hitting walls that wouldn't be an issue for a processor with more threads, also it is hard to ignore an overclocked Ryzen 1600 in the value equation.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1348-amd-ryzen-gaming-performance/

 

[Renevance]

Thanks for all the responses. How much of a performance difference can I expect between the i5 4590 and the Ryzen 1700? And how much of a performance difference can I expect between the i7 7700 and the latter? Rough estimates. I get 120fps average with the i5 4590, just for reference.

 

[dudeman509]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

 

[artk2219]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

Honestly for the price of a 4790k, you could pickup a ryzen 1600 with a b350 board. Then just OC it to 3.5 or 3.6 with the stock cooler.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=4790k&_sop=15

 

[Renevance]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

Honestly for the price of a 4790k, you could pickup a ryzen 1600 with a b350 board. Then just OC it to 3.5 or 3.6 with the stock cooler.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=4790k&_sop=15

Agreed. You'd think that the price of an i7 4790k would go down significantly with all these new CPU's coming out, but it's still very high. That's why I'm not considering it.

 

[Renevance]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

I'm looking for a futureproof CPU here. The i7 4790k is fairly old, and so is it's architecture.

 

[elbert]

For future proof you should also dodge the 1151 motherboard. Intels next CPU's has a 6 core the plateform wasn't designed to work with. Its coming out late fall to winter. Intel has also moved their highest end i7 7740k to the X299 2066 pin motherboards. If you want to buy right now I would highly suggest Ryzen due to AM4 has about 4 years left with zen+ coming a year or 2 down the road.

 

[artk2219]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

I'm looking for a futureproof CPU here. The i7 4790k is fairly old, and so is it's architecture.

It is fairly old, but even even Kaby Lake doesnt beat haswell by more than 10 to 15% on average, Ryzen is maybe 5% or so faster on average. The newer chips are more efficient, but not amazingly faster, they get you more cores, and in the case of Kaby Lake, faster clocks. That said, the reason I recommend against the 4790k is purely economical, it doesnt make sense to spend that much for that chip when there are newer better options out there. Priced at 150 to 180 it would be a different story, but not at 270.

 

[Renevance]

So being that you are only gaming, yet you want to multi-task, you may want to consider 16GB (8GBx2) and get the Ryzen CPU. It will help you get the most out of your gaming as well. Also, getting the 1600 will be the better value.

However, what are your usage and temps for CPU and GPU?

GPU Temp & Usage- Average 70 degrees celsius. Usage is below 70%
CPU Temp & Usage- Average is also 70 degrees celsius. Usage is around 95%

 

[Renevance]

So should I wait for Coffee Lake before buying a new CPU?

 

[elbert]

If you want Intel yes and it should get you 2 extra cores for the price of 4 ATM.

 

[artk2219]

So should I wait for Coffee Lake before buying a new CPU?

Not really, if you try to play that game you'll always be waiting for something better. If you feel the need to upgrade now, then i think that Ryzen is your best bet. If not, then you can wait a while for coffee lake or Zen+ or cannon lake depending on how those turn out. Honestly i just wish you had a k series chip, then the recommendation would be easy, just pump the clocks on that sucker to 4ghz+.

 

[dudeman509]

Bah.

For high refresh rate gaming, pick up an i7-4790k and OC it with a good cooler.

Don't bother with an entire platform change. Ryzen (in its current state) won't bring you 144 Hz performance, and a 7700k won't net you much more gain than a 4790k.

That said, it's a useless benchmark to hit. I'd much rather have resolution than > 60 Hz.

I'm looking for a futureproof CPU here. The i7 4790k is fairly old, and so is it's architecture.

Unless you are in need of more cores, then...not really. It is within <10% of the performance of a 7700k stock for stock. That kind of performance increase for several hundred dollars is just throwing away money IMO.

Intel doesn't change much from generation to generation, especially since Haswell. Most gains since then have been in the iGPU and power efficiency spectrum.

If it were me, I'd try to pick up a used one. I've had decent luck with used CPUs; albeit they were for laptops.

 

[Renevance]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Renevance : "Ryzen and i7 FPS difference"

What are the differences in FPS between Ryzen 7 1700 and i7 7700k? Specifically for 2560x1440p @ 144hz in AAA titles. I can't seem to find any accurate benchmarks. Also, would a Ryzen 7 1700 be a better upgrade than the Ryzen 5 1600x in the long run? Is it more future proof than the R5 and is it worth the extra $ for gaming/multitasking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGV2kR2YQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOXjao4QIqs
Ryzen perform well on 1440p +

The performance difference at 1440p and above isn't significant. In fact they are very close in performance at those resolutions. For gaming there is no difference between the 6 core and 8 core cpu's and for gaming I highly doubt one will outlast the other.

Unless you have a top end card like a GTX1080ti, you will not experience any difference
between i7-7700K and ryzen.

What you get with the more expensive ryzen chips is a better bin, more likely to get to 3.9.
Most games are not going to show much difference in performance between 8/12/16 threads.
Most will use 2-3 threads.
An exception might be multiplayer games which do well with many threads.

OTOH, if your games are sims, mmo and strategy types, they do respond to higher single thread capability where intel does better.

If your games are fast action shooters, look first to a good graphics card.

If you can use the extra 2 cores, 4 threads, then it's worth the extra cost. If not, then it's your call if you want to spend the money above a 6-core model. Ultimately, both are based on the same silicon, so will likely clock about the same.

Once you head north of 1080p for gaming, the GPU tends to be more of the bottleneck again so the 7700k doesn't have the commanding lead in frame rate anymore. There comes a point that neither CPU is consistently beating the 144 Hz mark, and there are also titles where neither struggle to beat the 144 Hz mark. Personally, I would go for the Ryzen system since you're actually planning to game on higher resolutions, where you won't be seeing the same benefit from the i7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGV2kR2YQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOXjao4QIqs
Ryzen perform well on 1440p +

The first video you linked is of the 1700X, I'm talking about the 1700. Thanks for the other link though. How much of a fps difference will there be between a Ryzen 1700 using 16GB DDR4 @2400MHz and a Ryzen 1700 using 16GB DDR4 @ 3000MHz?

Unless you have a top end card like a GTX1080ti, you will not experience any difference
between i7-7700K and ryzen.

What you get with the more expensive ryzen chips is a better bin, more likely to get to 3.9.
Most games are not going to show much difference in performance between 8/12/16 threads.
Most will use 2-3 threads.
An exception might be multiplayer games which do well with many threads.

OTOH, if your games are sims, mmo and strategy types, they do respond to higher single thread capability where intel does better.

If your games are fast action shooters, look first to a good graphics card.

I have a GTX 1080.

If you can use the extra 2 cores, 4 threads, then it's worth the extra cost. If not, then it's your call if you want to spend the money above a 6-core model. Ultimately, both are based on the same silicon, so will likely clock about the same.

Once you head north of 1080p for gaming, the GPU tends to be more of the bottleneck again so the 7700k doesn't have the commanding lead in frame rate anymore. There comes a point that neither CPU is consistently beating the 144 Hz mark, and there are also titles where neither struggle to beat the 144 Hz mark. Personally, I would go for the Ryzen system since you're actually planning to game on higher resolutions, where you won't be seeing the same benefit from the i7.

Can you expand on this please? I've seen benchmarks where the i7 7700k has a marginal lead over the Ryzen 1700 at 2560x1440p. Perhaps those benchmarks were made when Ryzen was experiencing problems?

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Ryzen support has improved, along with it's benchmark numbers.

To answer your RAM speed question, under ideal circumstances, fast RAM in a Ryzen system can boost frame rate up to 10%. It's never guaranteed to work, but there have been multiple updates released to increase compatibility in this area.

To address your concern that the benchmarks are for a 1700x rather than a 1700; it doesn't matter. Both the R7 and i7 in the benchmarks were overclocked. All of the R7 CPUs are based on identical silicon, with no revisions between them, when clocked to the same speed, they perform identically. All you get with the higher priced R7 models are CPUs that have been binned and run at higher out of the box clock speeds. If you don't plan to overclock, base frequencies can make a big difference.

Since you are comparing the R7 1700 to the 7700k, the choice for which will give you the possibility of the highest frames per second is pretty easy to pick. Clearly the 7700k can give you more frames, but here's the thing, since you don't have a 1080 Ti, aren't running SLI, and you're going to be running at 1440p and higher, the advantage is pretty much lost to your GPU bottleneck. Neither CPU is going to be the bottleneck, as your GPU should be running close to it's limits here.

Overwatch is GPU limited most of the time. Have you actually looked at your CPU / GPU usage in this title? You could still be GPU limited, and dropping a bunch of money on a new CPU, Motherboard, and RAM may not gain you very much at all.

Edit: Something often overlooked in games that support it is rendering scale. If your render scale is set incorrectly, you will not be rendering at your native resolution, but instead a higher resolution. This can easily tank the frame rate, or make it unexpectedly lower than systems with similar hardware. Make sure you have the rendering scale in Overwatch set appropriately to reach your target frame rate.

 

[elbert]

All you really need to know is will it play Crysis 3. Due to the 1700x is now only $330 its best to match them.

 

[Renevance]

Ryzen support has improved, along with it's benchmark numbers.

To answer your RAM speed question, under ideal circumstances, fast RAM in a Ryzen system can boost frame rate up to 10%. It's never guaranteed to work, but there have been multiple updates released to increase compatibility in this area.

To address your concern that the benchmarks are for a 1700x rather than a 1700; it doesn't matter. Both the R7 and i7 in the benchmarks were overclocked. All of the R7 CPUs are based on identical silicon, with no revisions between them, when clocked to the same speed, they perform identically. All you get with the higher priced R7 models are CPUs that have been binned and run at higher out of the box clock speeds. If you don't plan to overclock, base frequencies can make a big difference.

Since you are comparing the R7 1700 to the 7700k, the choice for which will give you the possibility of the highest frames per second is pretty easy to pick. Clearly the 7700k can give you more frames, but here's the thing, since you don't have a 1080 Ti, aren't running SLI, and you're going to be running at 1440p and higher, the advantage is pretty much lost to your GPU bottleneck. Neither CPU is going to be the bottleneck, as your GPU should be running close to it's limits here.

Overwatch is GPU limited most of the time. Have you actually looked at your CPU / GPU usage in this title? You could still be GPU limited, and dropping a bunch of money on a new CPU, Motherboard, and RAM may not gain you very much at all.

Edit: Something often overlooked in games that support it is rendering scale. If your render scale is set incorrectly, you will not be rendering at your native resolution, but instead a higher resolution. This can easily tank the frame rate, or make it unexpectedly lower than systems with similar hardware. Make sure you have the rendering scale in Overwatch set appropriately to reach your target frame rate.

CPU Usage is above 95% whereas GPU usage is always below 80%. Render scale set to 100%. I'm still CPU limited with the GTX 1080.

For the processor, I've pretty much decided on Ryzen instead of the i7. I hear it's more future proof, the motherboard will last for another 4+ years, it's better at multitasking and it has more cores. This seems a fair trade-off for a 5-10% less performance in games. Thanks for your reply.

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Sounds like you've done your homework, and that's good. I wish I could remember who said it to give them credit; with Ryzen you're looking at up to 10% less performance in games, but 100% more performance when getting work done.

 

[goldstone77]

The cheapest Ryzen 1700 with shipping will do, or just order it from newegg where I found the rest of the parts to make it easier to keep track of where they came from.
AMD B350
Supports AMD RYZEN Series Processors and 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors for Socket AM4
DDR4 2667/ 2400/ 2133
I don't like the choice in motherboard too many negative reviews and limited RAM support.
Alternately, I like this board with a better user rating and higher RAM speed support.
ASRock AB350M Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$79.99 $74.99 after $5.00 rebate
2 M.2, Type-C, Triple Monitor, ELNA Audio, LED
AMD Promontory B350
A-Series / Ryzen Series
Ryzen series CPUs support DDR4 3200+(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133
7th Gen A-Series APUs support DDR4 2400/ 2133
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

This review is from: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M1A2400C14
Pros: Actually corsair vengeance
Cons: Only runs at 2133mhz even though it's packaged as 2400mhz
Other Thoughts: Wish seller would would send me the correct ram
I don't like the speed of this RAM, or that the only review of it is bad. Alternately, I would choose the next one.
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) $126.99
DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
Timing 15-16-16-35
CAS Latency 15
Voltage 1.35V
One reviewer posted
This review is from: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory Kit Model F4-3000C15D-16GVKB
Pros: Works at 3066Mhz 16-16-16-35 in ASRock AB350M Pro 4 motherboard.
Supported by current AM4 BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.6.
Got it on sale.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Originally regretted not getting the 3200MHz version, but not really now that I got it working at 3066--most AM4 motherboards will round down to 2933. (If you are on an Intel platform this may not apply to you.)
Note the tall heatspreaders, this may mechanically interference with some coolers. I'm using the stock Wraith Spire for now.

With infinity fabric on going from 2133MHz to 3200MHz will grant you ~30% gain in FPS. The higher frequency lowers the latency of the communication between CCX, which account for about ~15% of the FPS gains. You could possible overclock that 3000MHz RAM to 3200MHz by adjusting the setting/timings slightly or just manually setting it too 3200MHz. As for gaming at 144Hz in Overwatch the 1080 will be overkill at 1080p. But should do fine for 2560x1440p @ 144hz.

Here is a video with game play on a Ryzen 1700@3.9GHz and 3200MHz RAM with a RX 480 4GB doing 300FPS.
Ryzen 1700, RX 480 nitro Overwatch fps test
Kim Woojoong
Published on May 5, 2017
ryzen 1700 3.8ghz O.C wraith max cooler
gigabyte ax370 aorus gaming k7
corsair vengeance Led blue X.M.P 3200mhz (16-18-18-18-38)
RX 480 nitro 4gb
Overwatch in game OPT
FHD Low
Windows 10 RS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXMeifmMiY

 

[Renevance]

The cheapest Ryzen 1700 with shipping will do, or just order it from newegg where I found the rest of the parts to make it easier to keep track of where they came from.
AMD B350
Supports AMD RYZEN Series Processors and 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors for Socket AM4
DDR4 2667/ 2400/ 2133
I don't like the choice in motherboard too many negative reviews and limited RAM support.
Alternately, I like this board with a better user rating and higher RAM speed support.
ASRock AB350M Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$79.99 $74.99 after $5.00 rebate
2 M.2, Type-C, Triple Monitor, ELNA Audio, LED
AMD Promontory B350
A-Series / Ryzen Series
Ryzen series CPUs support DDR4 3200+(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133
7th Gen A-Series APUs support DDR4 2400/ 2133
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

This review is from: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M1A2400C14
Pros: Actually corsair vengeance
Cons: Only runs at 2133mhz even though it's packaged as 2400mhz
Other Thoughts: Wish seller would would send me the correct ram
I don't like the speed of this RAM, or that the only review of it is bad. Alternately, I would choose the next one.
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) $126.99
DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
Timing 15-16-16-35
CAS Latency 15
Voltage 1.35V
One reviewer posted
This review is from: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory Kit Model F4-3000C15D-16GVKB
Pros: Works at 3066Mhz 16-16-16-35 in ASRock AB350M Pro 4 motherboard.
Supported by current AM4 BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.6.
Got it on sale.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Originally regretted not getting the 3200MHz version, but not really now that I got it working at 3066--most AM4 motherboards will round down to 2933. (If you are on an Intel platform this may not apply to you.)
Note the tall heatspreaders, this may mechanically interference with some coolers. I'm using the stock Wraith Spire for now.

With infinity fabric on going from 2133MHz to 3200MHz will grant you ~30% gain in FPS. The higher frequency lowers the latency of the communication between CCX, which account for about ~15% of the FPS gains. You could possible overclock that 3000MHz RAM to 3200MHz by adjusting the setting/timings slightly or just manually setting it too 3200MHz. As for gaming at 144Hz in Overwatch the 1080 will be overkill at 1080p. But should do fine for 2560x1440p @ 144hz.

Here is a video with game play on a Ryzen 1700@3.9GHz and 3200MHz RAM with a RX 480 4GB doing 300FPS.
Ryzen 1700, RX 480 nitro Overwatch fps test
Kim Woojoong
Published on May 5, 2017
ryzen 1700 3.8ghz O.C wraith max cooler
gigabyte ax370 aorus gaming k7
corsair vengeance Led blue X.M.P 3200mhz (16-18-18-18-38)
RX 480 nitro 4gb
Overwatch in game OPT
FHD Low
Windows 10 RS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXMeifmMiY

The effort you put into this reply is stunning. I really appreciate it. Back to topic, how would the Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 fare against the motherboard you suggested? On the specifications of the Asrock motherboard, it says it supports up to 2667Mhz RAM, whereas the one I have my eye on supports up to 3200MHz RAM (OC) which is the chosen RAM I'm planning to buy. On a side note, is 16-18-18-36 RAM bad? I'm planning to buy Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 288pin DIMM Black.

 

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The cheapest Ryzen 1700 with shipping will do, or just order it from newegg where I found the rest of the parts to make it easier to keep track of where they came from.
AMD B350
Supports AMD RYZEN Series Processors and 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors for Socket AM4
DDR4 2667/ 2400/ 2133
I don't like the choice in motherboard too many negative reviews and limited RAM support.
Alternately, I like this board with a better user rating and higher RAM speed support.
ASRock AB350M Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$79.99 $74.99 after $5.00 rebate
2 M.2, Type-C, Triple Monitor, ELNA Audio, LED
AMD Promontory B350
A-Series / Ryzen Series
Ryzen series CPUs support DDR4 3200+(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133
7th Gen A-Series APUs support DDR4 2400/ 2133
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

This review is from: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M1A2400C14
Pros: Actually corsair vengeance
Cons: Only runs at 2133mhz even though it's packaged as 2400mhz
Other Thoughts: Wish seller would would send me the correct ram
I don't like the speed of this RAM, or that the only review of it is bad. Alternately, I would choose the next one.
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) $126.99
DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
Timing 15-16-16-35
CAS Latency 15
Voltage 1.35V
One reviewer posted
This review is from: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory Kit Model F4-3000C15D-16GVKB
Pros: Works at 3066Mhz 16-16-16-35 in ASRock AB350M Pro 4 motherboard.
Supported by current AM4 BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.6.
Got it on sale.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Originally regretted not getting the 3200MHz version, but not really now that I got it working at 3066--most AM4 motherboards will round down to 2933. (If you are on an Intel platform this may not apply to you.)
Note the tall heatspreaders, this may mechanically interference with some coolers. I'm using the stock Wraith Spire for now.

With infinity fabric on going from 2133MHz to 3200MHz will grant you ~30% gain in FPS. The higher frequency lowers the latency of the communication between CCX, which account for about ~15% of the FPS gains. You could possible overclock that 3000MHz RAM to 3200MHz by adjusting the setting/timings slightly or just manually setting it too 3200MHz. As for gaming at 144Hz in Overwatch the 1080 will be overkill at 1080p. But should do fine for 2560x1440p @ 144hz.

Here is a video with game play on a Ryzen 1700@3.9GHz and 3200MHz RAM with a RX 480 4GB doing 300FPS.
Ryzen 1700, RX 480 nitro Overwatch fps test
Kim Woojoong
Published on May 5, 2017
ryzen 1700 3.8ghz O.C wraith max cooler
gigabyte ax370 aorus gaming k7
corsair vengeance Led blue X.M.P 3200mhz (16-18-18-18-38)
RX 480 nitro 4gb
Overwatch in game OPT
FHD Low
Windows 10 RS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXMeifmMiY

The effort you put into this reply is stunning. I really appreciate it. Back to topic, how would the Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 fare against the motherboard you suggested? On the specifications of the Asrock motherboard, it says it supports up to 2667Mhz RAM, whereas the one I have my eye on supports up to 3200MHz RAM (OC) which is the chosen RAM I'm planning to buy. On a side note, is 16-18-18-36 RAM bad? I'm planning to buy Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 288pin DIMM Black.

RAM support with Ryzen is best chosen by using the motherboards support page.
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-10#support-doc
This only show support for HyperX brand memory at 2666MHz being highest native support.
Read the reviews.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128991&cm_re=GA-AB350-Gaming_3-_-13-128-991-_-Product

ASRock AB350M Pro4
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/index.asp#Memory
DDR4 3200 4GB Patriot PV48G320C6K (11D1) is the highest native support.

Now, it's hard to say if the Gigabyte board will go above 2666MHz, one reviewer said he achieved 2933MHz. ASRock board does say he support at least 1 RAM module at 3200MHz, and about a dozen at 3000MHz. Ryzen motherboards are still expanding support for RAM modules. And 16-18-18-36 is not bad for 3200MHz.