JamesSneed :
@razamatraz, agree. What most people are not accounting for is AMD's 8c/16t Ryzen is going up against Intels 8c or 10c chips which are selling for $1000+. They may under cut Intels $1500 10c part by 40% which would still leave the AMD CPU costing $600. This one scenario I can see occurring but I would not hold out on hugely lower prices on the lower end chips as it just not going to happen if AMD actually has a competitive product like all signs are pointing to.
I don't know if all signs are pointing to it, in fact less signs are pointing to it so far than were with Buldozer, and I got burned there. There are no signs at all pointing to a 10 core competitor, but realistically that's such a niche chip that I wouldn't expect any. If the 1800x is actually as good as a 6900k, then it's game on at the high end, and that's great. But AMD needs to make money, and no one who already has a 6900k is going to switch to something that performs exactly the same so they will be relying on new buyers. They are going to have to balance these things and undercut Intel by enough to entice mainstream or 5820k level buyers but not sell so cheap that they can't make money on it. Tons of revenue and no profit don't help them, they've had that for a decade almost. So, if 1800x matched 6900k I expect a $750 MSRP and probably $900 in store on release; the old availability markup.
What's striking me as weird in these leaks is that they put the top 8c16t against 6900k but the bottom one against 7700k? a 7700k is literally half the chip as a 6900k. how can a 3.0 8c16t be competing that much lower than a 3.6 8c16t? There are a lot of self-contradictions in these leaks to the point that I'm writing them all off as BS. two weeks ago there were no 6 cores, but there were 8c8t, now they are all "hyperthreaded" and 6 cores are back.....I hope these chips are amazing, I hope they knock prices down a bit, I hope AMD makes a profit on them but the only thing I believe right now is that an 1800x beat a 6900k by 2 seconds in a blender render and plays doom fine since we actually saw them do that at CES. Those are the only demos with actual numbers behind them and they came from AMD.....so yah, wait for the benches, wait for the MSRPs and wait to see what they price is on actual store shelves. Go AMD, but I'll believe it when I see it.