Samsung EVO 860 vs ADATA SU800 - advice please

[donline]

Hi folks,

I'm looking to get a 500GB SSD and I'm choosing between Samsung EVO 860 vs ADATA SU800.

On paper (or screen!) the ADATA looks better...

ADATA SU800
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Storage: 512 GB
Read speed: 560 MB/s (up to)
Write speed: 520 MB/s (up to)
TBW: 400 TB
MTBF: 2M hours
Warranty: 3 years
Other: SLC caching, LDPC ECC Engine, RAID Engine, DEVSLP (device sleep/power mode)

Samsung EVO 860
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Storage: 500 GB
Read speed: 550 MB/s (up to)
Write speed: 520 MB/s (up to)
TBW: 300 TB
MTBF: 1.5M hours
Warranty: 5 years
Other: AES 256-bit Full Disk Encryption, Intelligent TurboWrite Technology, 'Queued trim' (for enhanced Linux compatibility??),

What do you think is the best option? I know that Samsung is usually much more popular but when I look at the specs above I don't know why. (The Samsung SSD is currently cheaper on Amazon).

Any advice is much appreciated!
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[mdd1963]

Samsung's performance is quite established...

I'd need to see a review of it being equaled or defeated, and for said product to be $20-$50 less expensive before I'd choose alternatives...

 

[jimmysmitty]

The numbers you see performance wise are sequential data reads and writes. The ADATA does well there. However in random it seems it is much worse than the Samsung Evo 750 and most normal PC workloads are random workloads.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adata-ultimate-su800-ssd-review,4824-2.html

That is it vs a 850 Evo which is equivalent to the 860 Evo.

 

[donline]

Samsung's performance is quite established...

I'd need to see a review of it being equaled or defeated, and for said product to be $20-$50 less expensive before I'd choose alternatives...

Would the Samsung be just as reliable considering the ADATA has much better TBW and MTBF? Thanks!

 

[donline]

The numbers you see performance wise are sequential data reads and writes. The ADATA does well there. However in random it seems it is much worse than the Samsung Evo 750 and most normal PC workloads are random workloads.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adata-ultimate-su800-ssd-review,4824-2.html

That is it vs a 850 Evo which is equivalent to the 860 Evo.

Thanks jimmysmitty
Yes sounds right with the sequential data reads/writes.
So you would still choose the Samsung even with the specs above (especially product life/TBW/MTBF) being better on the ADATA?

 

[USAFRet]

The only way I'd choose the ADATA over the Samsung is if it were 1/2 the price for the same size.
And then, only as a secondary drive.

 

[donline]

The only way I'd choose the ADATA over the Samsung is if it were 1/2 the price for the same size.
And then, only as a secondary drive.

Thanks USAFRet!
Actually the Samsung EVO 860 is 15% cheaper (on sale right now!), so I'll go with that

I'm also looking to get a 256GB SSD to use externally (for backup etc) and was wondering what you might recommend for that? Samsung again? Otherwise, Kingston and Crucial are a bit cheaper...

 

[jimmysmitty]

Yes I would pick the Samsung. My two go too for SSDs are Samsung and Intel as they tend to have the best quality NAND and performance.

As for external I would still pick Samsung. They would use the same NAND as in their internal drives.

 

[USAFRet]

The only way I'd choose the ADATA over the Samsung is if it were 1/2 the price for the same size.
And then, only as a secondary drive.

Thanks USAFRet!
Actually the Samsung EVO 860 is 15% cheaper (on sale right now!), so I'll go with that

I'm also looking to get a 256GB SSD to use externally (for backup etc) and was wondering what you might recommend for that? Samsung again? Otherwise, Kingston and Crucial are a bit cheaper...

For backups, is 250GB enough?
A 1-2TB spinning drive might suit better.

 

[donline]

Yes I would pick the Samsung. My two go too for SSDs are Samsung and Intel as they tend to have the best quality NAND and performance.

As for external I would still pick Samsung. They would use the same NAND as in their internal drives.

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

 

[USAFRet]

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

internal external...is this a desktop or a laptop?
And you can't run the OS from an external.

Well, you kind of can, but you really really really don't want to go down that road.

 

[donline]

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

internal external...is this a desktop or a laptop?
And you can't run the OS from an external.

Well, you kind of can, but you really really really don't want to go down that road.

It's an ASUS laptop (with a 256GB SSD already running).
I'd like to get into video editing (ideally being able to hop between Windows 10 and Linux when I want to) and of course be able to back up my videos. So I'm wondering what storage setup to go with... Any advice much appreciated!

 

[jimmysmitty]

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

internal external...is this a desktop or a laptop?
And you can't run the OS from an external.

Well, you kind of can, but you really really really don't want to go down that road.

This.

Running an OS from a USB is fine if its Linux or a lite/mini version of Windows for diagnostic uses, like in Hirens BootCD, however running a full OS will not be a happy experience.

I would probably at least match if not double the external for backup. Thing is you might start moving some files off the internal SSD to the backup and want extra space.

USAFRet can also suggest a NAS solution, Network Attached Storage, which might be a better idea as you can setup multiple drives in since enclosure. Might be more cost efficient per GB.

 

[donline]

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

internal external...is this a desktop or a laptop?
And you can't run the OS from an external.

Well, you kind of can, but you really really really don't want to go down that road.

This.

Running an OS from a USB is fine if its Linux or a lite/mini version of Windows for diagnostic uses, like in Hirens BootCD, however running a full OS will not be a happy experience.

I would probably at least match if not double the external for backup. Thing is you might start moving some files off the internal SSD to the backup and want extra space.

USAFRet can also suggest a NAS solution, Network Attached Storage, which might be a better idea as you can setup multiple drives in since enclosure. Might be more cost efficient per GB.

Thanks jimmysmitty

At the moment I'm thinking about getting a 500GB Samsung EVO SSD (internal) and a WD (Elements) 2TB HDD for external backup... (also, I already have 256GB internal SSD). Does that sound like a good setup?

 

[jimmysmitty]

Can your laptop support 2 SSDs? Or does it have an M.2 with an available 2.5" slot? Are you planning on just swapping the SSD?

 

[donline]

Can your laptop support 2 SSDs? Or does it have an M.2 with an available 2.5" slot? Are you planning on just swapping the SSD?

I think it can support 2 SSDs (not 100% sure). It's an ASUS X550JX laptop. I was planning on putting in the second SSD where the empty DVD drive is located (using a HDD/SSD caddy like this).

How can I check 100% that my laptop can have a second SSD?

 

[donline]

Thanks jimmysmitty

Samsung it is then!

I want to get into video editing and was wondering what storage setup to go with? Perhaps 1 SSD internal and 1 SDD external (for backup etc)? Wonder what minimum size storage to have?

Also, how much can you run from an external hard drive (connected via a USB 3.0 adapter)? Would an OS run slowly from that and could you do video editing smoothly?

internal external...is this a desktop or a laptop?
And you can't run the OS from an external.

Well, you kind of can, but you really really really don't want to go down that road.

This.

Running an OS from a USB is fine if its Linux or a lite/mini version of Windows for diagnostic uses, like in Hirens BootCD, however running a full OS will not be a happy experience.

I would probably at least match if not double the external for backup. Thing is you might start moving some files off the internal SSD to the backup and want extra space.

USAFRet can also suggest a NAS solution, Network Attached Storage, which might be a better idea as you can setup multiple drives in since enclosure. Might be more cost efficient per GB.

Also, what do you think of having an SSHD as an option for backup (instead of an HDD)? Such as the Firecuda by Seagate? Thanks

 

[USAFRet]

Also, what do you think of having an SSHD as an option for backup (instead of an HDD)? Such as the Firecuda by Seagate? Thanks

The concept of the SSHD is wasted in that scenario.
The write speed of the SSHD is the same as a regular HDD.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Also, what do you think of having an SSHD as an option for backup (instead of an HDD)? Such as the Firecuda by Seagate? Thanks

The concept of the SSHD is wasted in that scenario.
The write speed of the SSHD is the same as a regular HDD.

Agreed.

SSHDs are fine for people who want a single drive with larger than and still cheaper than SSD but better performance than normal HDDs.

 

[donline]

Thanks for all your kind support folks!