wemakeourfuture
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'following' all the way to the bank to cash the checks Apple writes to them to implement and produce the processor? (You do know it's co-developed with Samsung don't you? Or is that one of the facts you file away under things-I-don't-want-to-know?)
Cy-Kill
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You can blame Microsoft for that, because they don't seem to want to make a full 64-bit OS without the 32-bit emulation, so developers don't really want to start coding software that is only for a 64-bit OS. Until MS drops 32-bit Windows altogether, we won't see true 64-bit computing.
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With .NET bytecode (MSIL), developers actually don't need to know that the underlying CPU is since the runtime's native recompiler will recompile it to whatever is under the hood... 32bits ARM, 64bits ARM, 32bits x86, 64bits x86, etc. just like Java does. With those high-level languages, the "bitness" of applications is whatever the runtime and OS makes them.
Amazing how some of you are comparing apple to oranges when it comes to 64-bit computing for PCs and mobile Devices. Yeah its the whole over 4GB thing! lol...naive to say the least! Good on Apple to be the first to see the potential of 64-bit iOS to open up more App capabilities within its hardware.
Amazing how some of you are comparing apple to oranges when it comes to 64-bit computing for PCs and mobile Devices. Yeah its the whole over 4GB thing! lol...naive to say the least! Good on Apple to be the first to see the potential of 64-bit iOS to open up more App capabilities within its hardware.
Amazing how some of you are comparing apple to oranges when it comes to 64-bit computing for PCs and mobile Devices. Yeah its the whole over 4GB thing! lol...naive to say the least! Good on Apple to be the first to see the potential of 64-bit iOS to open up more App capabilities within its hardware.
Amazing how some of you are comparing apple to oranges when it comes to 64-bit computing for PCs and mobile Devices. Yeah its the whole over 4GB thing! lol...naive to say the least! Good on Apple to be the first to see the potential of 64-bit iOS to open up more App capabilities within its hardware.
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4GB is still within 32bits addressing range albeit with some losses due to MMIO if there is no re-mapping mechanism to recover it. Right now though, the first 3GB devices are just around the corner just like the first 2GB devices last year so I would expect 4GB to pop up around this time next year, possibly in LPDDR4 flavor.
Samsung was FIRST to license ARM A50 64bit chips last year. In fact they had to be first to be the first fabricator to have 64bit chips coming off their fabrication lines. Which rely on Samsung's patented process technology, equipment and R&D spending and development. Those Apple A7's don't just grow on trees and it takes at least a year to go from design to tooling up machine lines, sampling, testing, tuning and then the all important ramping up of production.
So the fact that Apple was able to rush a product to market before Samsung is really no big deal. It only means that Apple's iPhone 5s is running iOS 7 and stealing Samsung's Biometric Sensor in the Home Button idea. Want proof? Look no further that Samsung's biometric sensor in the home button patent filed in November 2011 and still not granted by USPTO. Yet they were quick to grant Apple's in a heartbeat not even applied for for over a year. When they had bought Authentec out from under Samsung, HP and others. If that isn't Anticompetitive, then I don't know what is!
Especially since the first thing Apple did is order Authentec to cease support of their competitor's pre-existing sensor contracts. Which caused Samsung to have to find another Biometric Sensor company too late for it's planned launch on the Galaxy S3. Which you can see here was planned to have it in it's home button!
http://www.biometricupdate.com/201305/rumors-point-to-an-embedded-fingerprint-sensor-for-galaxy-devices
That was of course before Apple came out of nowhere to buy Authentec and screw it's existing customers too. Not to mention stealing Samsung's Biometric Sensor in the home button idea from Samsung's Nov. 2011 Patent as well. So when is the World ever going to see Apple for rip off artists and thieves they really are? Well if they keep pumping enough RDF into their fans, that maybe never!!!
But...... that won't stop Samsung from putting in a new better designed and more secure Validity Sensor in their HOME Button for the Win!!! ..........Apple's store bought fingerprint sensor isn't near as good or secure as the Enterprise Biometric Sensor industry leader in Validity! ;-P
So the fact that Apple was able to rush a product to market before Samsung is really no big deal. It only means that Apple's iPhone 5s is running iOS 7 and stealing Samsung's Biometric Sensor in the Home Button idea. Want proof? Look no further that Samsung's biometric sensor in the home button patent filed in November 2011 and still not granted by USPTO. Yet they were quick to grant Apple's in a heartbeat not even applied for for over a year. When they had bought Authentec out from under Samsung, HP and others. If that isn't Anticompetitive, then I don't know what is!
Especially since the first thing Apple did is order Authentec to cease support of their competitor's pre-existing sensor contracts. Which caused Samsung to have to find another Biometric Sensor company too late for it's planned launch on the Galaxy S3. Which you can see here was planned to have it in it's home button!
http://www.biometricupdate.com/201305/rumors-point-to-an-embedded-fingerprint-sensor-for-galaxy-devices
That was of course before Apple came out of nowhere to buy Authentec and screw it's existing customers too. Not to mention stealing Samsung's Biometric Sensor in the home button idea from Samsung's Nov. 2011 Patent as well. So when is the World ever going to see Apple for rip off artists and thieves they really are? Well if they keep pumping enough RDF into their fans, that maybe never!!!
But...... that won't stop Samsung from putting in a new better designed and more secure Validity Sensor in their HOME Button for the Win!!! ..........Apple's store bought fingerprint sensor isn't near as good or secure as the Enterprise Biometric Sensor industry leader in Validity! ;-P
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" Samsung is already shoving 3 GB memory sticks into phones", no not sticks but a chip than internally has 2 stacks of 3 dies in it, totalling 3GB of RAM
Wow, so many clueless people here.
64bit on ARM means much more than on x86.
Due to the CISC architecture, x86 has been benefiting from every additional hidden registers Intel has been putting in throughout their new architectures without resorting to 64bit OS. That's why 64bit Windows doesn't bring much gain beside the 4GB barrier issue resolved.
ARM on the other hand, has been suffering from its limited number of the architectural registers it has been stuck with the whole time.
With the whole new instruction set plus double the amount, double the wide registers this limitation is virtually eliminated for ARM.
And of course, in order to benefit from all those new features ARMv8 offers, the OS has to be a 64bit one. Too bad for Android.
I bet the upcoming GalaxyS5 will feature a 64bit CPU running 32bit Android. What a joke.
64bit on ARM means much more than on x86.
Due to the CISC architecture, x86 has been benefiting from every additional hidden registers Intel has been putting in throughout their new architectures without resorting to 64bit OS. That's why 64bit Windows doesn't bring much gain beside the 4GB barrier issue resolved.
ARM on the other hand, has been suffering from its limited number of the architectural registers it has been stuck with the whole time.
With the whole new instruction set plus double the amount, double the wide registers this limitation is virtually eliminated for ARM.
And of course, in order to benefit from all those new features ARMv8 offers, the OS has to be a 64bit one. Too bad for Android.
I bet the upcoming GalaxyS5 will feature a 64bit CPU running 32bit Android. What a joke.
Wow, so many clueless people here.
64bit on ARM means much more than on x86.
Due to the CISC architecture, x86 has been benefiting from every additional hidden registers Intel has been putting in throughout their new architectures without resorting to 64bit OS. That's why 64bit Windows doesn't bring much gain beside the 4GB barrier issue resolved.
ARM on the other hand, has been suffering from its limited number of the architectural registers it has been stuck with the whole time.
With the whole new instruction set plus double the amount, double the wide registers this limitation is virtually eliminated for ARM.
64bit on ARM means much more than on x86.
Due to the CISC architecture, x86 has been benefiting from every additional hidden registers Intel has been putting in throughout their new architectures without resorting to 64bit OS. That's why 64bit Windows doesn't bring much gain beside the 4GB barrier issue resolved.
ARM on the other hand, has been suffering from its limited number of the architectural registers it has been stuck with the whole time.
With the whole new instruction set plus double the amount, double the wide registers this limitation is virtually eliminated for ARM.
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