Sandy Bridge Bug 2X Costly as Pentium Math Bug

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I got my SB mobo and I'm happy. Sure would suck to be in the process of building a PC then this happen. This isn't even a big deal, I'm sure by the time any noticeable performance issues arouse I'll be able to trade the mobo in for a new one. I might be more annoyed if I had an expensive SSD which I'd assume will notice the performance hit far more than anything else.

My only concern is if it's going to be a bitch activating Windows on the new board, since the board is tied to the OS. I'm sure MS will have a policy for this, I just hope it's not a pain in the ass.
 
I like how all the AMD fanboys are so happy about this, thinking that it's great for business. Well, I hate to break it to you, but AMD's shitty processors (including those that have yet to be released), are still going to be shitty processors by the time this blows over. This doesn't change the fact that Intel's processors are a good 2-3 generations ahead of AMD's, with the advent of Quick-Sync as well as older features like Hyperthreading. So sorry, you still lose.
 
$475mil in 1993 is worth $716mil today according to the inflation calculators (based on CPI) I could google. However, $700mil is probably a sweet number for investors. This will probably cost more than that.
 
[citation][nom]pudgychicken[/nom]I like how all the AMD fanboys are so happy about this, thinking that it's great for business. Well, I hate to break it to you, but AMD's shitty processors (including those that have yet to be released), are still going to be shitty processors by the time this blows over. This doesn't change the fact that Intel's processors are a good 2-3 generations ahead of AMD's, with the advent of Quick-Sync as well as older features like Hyperthreading. So sorry, you still lose.[/citation]

You don't even need to be an AMD fan boy to see how retarded and bias your comment was. I apologize, but for gaming processors really don't mean jack. I have an Athlon ii X4 2.8ghz and I can play any game on high at 1440x900. Sure I am not getting 1080p, but whatever. My processor is way faster then processors from 2-3 generations ago.
 
[citation][nom]jryan388[/nom]$475e^(18*.03) = $815 million...[/citation]

$475 * (1.03)^18 = 808.6

Makes no difference how you want to calculate it. The point still stands.
 
Karma is a B$tch!!!! See what you get for forcing NVidia out of the Nehalem chipset market.


BTW I hear NVdia has a new chipset to bypass the sandybridge epic fail chipset completely.
 
[citation][nom]pudgychicken[/nom]I like how all the AMD fanboys are so happy about this, thinking that it's great for business.[/citation]
It's not, especially considering a) AMD don't have a product to fill this void, and b) it's not really going to be a big problem for Intel.

[citation][nom]pudgychicken[/nom]Well, I hate to break it to you, but AMD's shitty processors (including those that have yet to be released), are still going to be shitty processors by the time this blows over. This doesn't change the fact that Intel's processors are a good 2-3 generations ahead of AMD's, with the advent of Quick-Sync as well as older features like Hyperthreading. So sorry, you still lose.[/citation]

Bulldozer sports a more aggressive SMT implementation than HT, plus it fully supports AVX just as SNB does, so technically, far more comparable than, say, Phenom II to Penryn or Nehalem. I'll give you QuickSync though, however as proven by Anandtech, it doesn't result in the best quality output. Definitely good quality for the speed.
 
do i detect a bit of intel fanboyism?

There have been some reports from the side of AMD ridiculing Intel's mistake, but we should be fair and recognize that microprocessors are highly complex marvels and engineering and AMD has made mistakes as well - such as the TLB bug in the company's first quad-core server processor - the 2007 Opteron CPU with Barcelona core.
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this is why i let others vet out a product for atleast a year.
when it comes to new model or drive system changes in an automobile i don't buy that one for atleast 5 years as it takes them that long to find and fix all the bugs. last thing i want is an engine burning up on me or the brakes failing or the airbag sensor working improperly.
 
[citation][nom]jasonpwns[/nom]You don't even need to be an AMD fan boy to see how retarded and bias your comment was. I apologize, but for gaming processors really don't mean jack. I have an Athlon ii X4 2.8ghz and I can play any game on high at 1440x900. Sure I am not getting 1080p, but whatever. My processor is way faster then processors from 2-3 generations ago.[/citation]

I think most people in the hardcore gaming community (my self included), know that it is almost sacrilegious to play a game at less than 1080p. Personally, I have an i7 980X paired with 2x GTX 480. Oh, and, when AMD has decent processors like the Phenom II's, who gets an Athlon? Seriously?
 


I think you totally missed the point. Intel CPU's will get faster and cheaper if AMD is more competitive. The proof is in the pudding, have you looked at how well Intel Sandy Bridge CPU's overclock? If so you know Intel is sandbagging to maximize profits. Intel's Quick-Sync is pretty cool single purpose hardware for transcoding. However hyperthreading is way overrated and AMD can potentially do better than hyperthreading with real cores if they get the scheduler right(big if). I hope AMD smacks Intel hard so they are forced to release 4GHz, quad DDR3 Sandy Bridges for $300-400 bucks. We need competition to return.
 
[citation][nom]jamessneed[/nom]I think you totally missed the point. Intel CPU's will get faster and cheaper if AMD is more competitive. The proof is in the pudding, have you looked at how well Intel Sandy Bridge CPU's overclock? If so you know Intel is sandbagging to maximize profits. Intel's Quick-Sync is pretty cool single purpose hardware for transcoding. However hyperthreading is way overated and AMD can potentially do better than hyperthreading with real cores if they get the schedular right(big if). I hope AMD smacks Intel hard so they are forced to release 4GHz, quad DDR3 Sandy Bridges for $300-400 bucks. We need copetition to return.[/citation]

I couldn't agree more, however my comment was directed at the comments on all three articles on this topic, where you find people who expect AMD just to release bulldozer immediately, as if by doing so they will miraculously get back on top again.
 
at least intel is truthful about the issue and announce it openly, unlike one company that knew about its motherboard failures but tried to hide it.
 



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Oh God.Well I was planning on a Sandy Bridge build thankfully I held off.
So here is either to the corrections or awaiting Bulldozer.
Might as well wait for another couple of months.
 
From what I have read it looks like April is the earliest AMD can get Bulldozer out the door. That is only 2-3 months from now. This slip up can only help AMD even if just by a little.

Im so ready for some real competition to return. Wouldn't it be nice if Intel actually had to compete and fill the $300-$1,000 market or better yet there was no $1,000 desktop CPU market. Instead Intel just make a $1,000 CPU that no way in hell AMD can touch with current tech. Its only going to get worse with Sandy Bridge if Bulldozer sucks(why do you think intel released the lower end Sandy Bridges first.. Intel needs to see Bulldozer to set the final clocks on the 990x).
 
[citation][nom]pudgychicken[/nom]I think most people in the hardcore gaming community (my self included), know that it is almost sacrilegious to play a game at less than 1080p. Personally, I have an i7 980X paired with 2x GTX 480. Oh, and, when AMD has decent processors like the Phenom II's, who gets an Athlon? Seriously?[/citation]

Whatever, 1080p isn't as great as people make it out to be. Anyways processor doesn't do much at even higher than my res. Oh and I got the Athlon ii x4 because I found one new for 50$. Cannot beat that for a quad core that works.
 
@jasonpwns

1080p does make a big difference to me, since i have both a 1080p monitor and a 1280x1024 monitor to compare. athlon ii x4 is a great value as a gaming processor, especially at $50, but let's not make misguided statements that the cpu doesn't do much at even higher than your res.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

sure in some gpu heavy games you won't see much of a difference, but plenty of other games you will, especially in cpu intensive ones. this is particularly evident in the link above with some games showing a double fps increase from the athlon ii x4 to a core i5 2500k @ 1680x1050 res.
 
@jasonpwns

kumquatsrus has a fair point. not all games are GPU bound, some rely on good CPU's. And even to a point, a top end GFX card relies on a good CPU.. currently I have a gtx460 with a Q9505, and i see about 2/3 the fps in many reviews all over the interwebs when they use an i7 930-950 (same GFX and games)

also at 1440x900 or whatever your res is, you do miss out. especially in FPS titles, you wont see that guy in the distance as early, or that slight movement in the bushes as easily. Lower Res = Less Detail.. Period

BTW I have both 1400x1050 and 1920x1080 monitors (yes it is 4:3), and can easily compare. It makes a big difference.

Regarding the ACUTAL TOPIC at hand.. I think I'll still go ahead with my SB upgrade. I wont be getting the CPU/mobo til mid/late March as it is.. (due to lack of $$) and if I have any issues, its going to have to be covered by warranty as its a known issue. the 5% figure may be a tad hopeful, but i doubt its much worse.. 10-15% at most. Chances of getting a faulty system is small. Also if its only Sata II 3g thats effected.. theres always the Sata III 6g ports...
 
oh and one other thing, for those who are wondering.. SataII drives/cables are compatible with SataIII ports. Backwards compatibility ftw
 
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