sempron 64 bit or p4 d805?

[jimw428]

Keep in mind that the OP is in the UK. I doubt that new component prices are even close to what you enjoy in the Philippines. Also, don't forget the UK's VAT rate, currently at 17.5%.

 

[kukito]

Plus its 64 bit so its vista ready...

You don't need 64 bit to run Vista. I'm running 32 bit Vista Ultimate.

 

[dlmacline]

Oh I see.. now I know..thanks for the info hehehe

but I probably bet you still need at least sempron 64 and GeForce 6 to get your PC going when vista comes around.. I saw in a magazine that they tested vista using a GeForce 5 gpu and it had fragments in the sides..

so saving that 100$ for a good GPU rather than a better processor is a better idea for me.. it is my opinion though

 

[jamesgoddard]

How about a Celeron D 336?

Only the 352 and 356 use the 65nm core, do not go lower as the old Celerons really are poor... PS I forgot the 352 and 356 have 512k cache...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/16/intel_desktop_roadmap/

slap head - bad that I forgot - seeing as I have a 356... The 356 is noticeably faster than the AMD 2800+ I have in my older PC. The reason I get the 356 was I got a new PCI express system, but want to wait for Core2quad, so I spent £45 on a Celeron CPU rather than going for anything more expensive...

The only saving grace of the Semperons are the availability of good, cheap motherboards. If you are on a real budget the NVIDIA 6150 chipsets are OK, (steer clear of the 6100’s as they lack Pure Video and are a bit slower). The 6150 will run Vista for example no issues, and will run older games like WoW on medium ish settings well, and leave you the PCI express slot for future use.

 

[jamesgoddard]

PS if you go Semperon, get an AM2 motherboard, always try to futureproof your motherboard, if will payback in time..

 

[jamesgoddard]

An example of a good solid 6150 based board...

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=45K8&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,362490000,4294956091&v=2#infoarea

 

[jamesgoddard]

Lastly - get yourself a bank account, you do not need to be a mega earner to have one.... My 15 year old daughter has an account she can use for online shopping, and all I give her is £30 a month.... Having a good long backing history will help you later on in life when you need the banks..

 

[GavinLeigh]

Personally I've been a big fan of AMD due to price / performance. But I did build an 805 machine which runs at 3.6hz with an after market Zalman cooler. And I think it's great. The heasink, chip and motherboard cost me about $200 and then you need to add memory. I opted for some expensive PC2-6400 but there's no reason to not opt for some cheaper DDR2 to keep within your budget.

There's no way to future proof for Vista as I imagine that in a years time we'll all be telling you to buy a hybrid hard drive and a DX10 ( or even DX11 ) graphics card to get the REAL experience. As it stands right now I can run Vista on my 805 machine with my 6800xt and still get to see the interface tweaks. But actually after I installed the RC2 I felt that it wasn't that special anyway. That's the problem with the OS hype... often when you get a good look at something it isn't that great. Perhaps the performance improvements will be important but as there isn't anything designed for Vista yet... what's the point of worrying about it.

Anyway... enjoy your new build, I hope you can find a good shop (store) to buy your equipment from. When I was a student in the UK they used to have a local computer fair every month. They were great for computer parts. Whether they still exist I am not sure, but they used to have great deals on 2Mb Diamond Viper graphic cards and 210Mb Hard Drives ( see it was a while ago ).

 

[gOJDO]

ASRock 775Dual-VSTA ($60?) + 805D ($95?) + AGP (EXISTING) or PCIe video card. Then, later you could drop in a C2D.

ASRock AM2NF6G-VSTA ($60) + Sempron 3000+ ($35<-this is BS) + 1G RAM ~$100.

According to AMD's last price drops on 23th of Octorber 2006, the tray Sempron 3000+ in quantity of 1000 pieces costs $56.
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_609,00.html

AMD Processor Pricing
Effective 23rd October 2006

Prices below are subject to change without notice. This listing reflects pricing for direct AMD customers in 1000-unit tray quantities, except when designated as PIB quantities.

Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.6GHz, 256KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, AM2) $56
Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.8GHz, 128KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, 754-pin) $56

 

[Flopmouth_Fish]

If you want a Sempron, at least get one of the newer socket AM2 ones. However, I'd take a cheap Athlon 64 over the Sempron or D-805.

 

[m25]

ASRock 775Dual-VSTA ($60?) + 805D ($95?) + AGP (EXISTING) or PCIe video card. Then, later you could drop in a C2D.

ASRock AM2NF6G-VSTA ($60) + Sempron 3000+ ($35<-this is BS) + 1G RAM ~$100.

According to AMD's last price drops on 23th of Octorber 2006, the tray Sempron 3000+ in quantity of 1000 pieces costs $56.
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_609,00.html

AMD Processor Pricing
Effective 23rd October 2006

Prices below are subject to change without notice. This listing reflects pricing for direct AMD customers in 1000-unit tray quantities, except when designated as PIB quantities.

Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.6GHz, 256KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, AM2) $56
Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.8GHz, 128KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, 754-pin) $56

Talking about AM2 semprons,....

..the tray Sempron 3000+ in quantity of 1000 pieces costs $56.<<<THis is the REAL BS

The OEM has jumped to ~$40 the last days.
Newegg has it RETAIL & w free shipping @ $56 so you can guestimate the real price at about $40.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104305

 

[gOJDO]

ASRock 775Dual-VSTA ($60?) + 805D ($95?) + AGP (EXISTING) or PCIe video card. Then, later you could drop in a C2D.

ASRock AM2NF6G-VSTA ($60) + Sempron 3000+ ($35<-this is BS) + 1G RAM ~$100.

According to AMD's last price drops on 23th of Octorber 2006, the tray Sempron 3000+ in quantity of 1000 pieces costs $56.
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_609,00.html

AMD Processor Pricing
Effective 23rd October 2006

Prices below are subject to change without notice. This listing reflects pricing for direct AMD customers in 1000-unit tray quantities, except when designated as PIB quantities.

Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.6GHz, 256KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, AM2) $56
Sempron 3000+ (64-bit, 1.8GHz, 128KB L2 cache, 1600MHz HyperTransport bus, 754-pin) $56

Talking about AM2 semprons,....

..the tray Sempron 3000+ in quantity of 1000 pieces costs $56.<<<THis is the REAL BS

The OEM has jumped to ~$40 the last days.
Newegg has it RETAIL & w free shipping @ $56 so you can guestimate the real price at about $40.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104305
Why don't you take a look at the AMD official pricing list at their website. The addres is bolded and the size of the font is HUGE.

 

[dasickninja]

Keep it chill, M25 is a good dude

 

[m25]

Why don't you take a look at the AMD official pricing list at their website. The addres is bolded and the size of the font is HUGE

Because my logic tells me there is some problem with that price since
1-newegg sells the 3000+ with a HSF, 3year warranty & free shipping for the same price they claim 1000 tray units.
2-A week ago, ewiz.com had OEM AM2 3000+s for $40
3-The AMD official website is not an updating champion :lol:

 

[gOJDO]

Keep it chill, M25 is a good dude

I guess you are right, I need one of these:

and one of these:

And, yes. M25 is a good dude. He deservers one of these also.

 

[dasickninja]

Nope just one of these:

 

[gOJDO]

hehe :lol:
I prefer configurations with big boobies more than configurations with fat asses. But in such an urgent situation my hardware will fit perfect in the configuration you have recmomended to me :lol:

 

[cd_rom]

jeez, i can see the topic is getting h0t. But i like it, you guys are so helpful. Anyway i got the motherboard today, it's a ECS NFORCE4M-A V1.1 with AM2 socket and it supports any AM2 socket from sempron to dualcore and FX. I think it's not a bad board actually, got it for £65 though. Here is the link for spec: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?MenuID=132&LanID=9&DetailID=658&DetailName=Specification , it got some nice features as well. 😀

So tomorrow i will go buy a cpu and rams. I still try to make my mind up between a AMD Athlon 3500 AM2 (£65) or Sempron 3400 AM2 (£56) (Sempron AM2 is 64 bits, yes?)

Ah, i got to get a pci express graphic card as well (damn) cause this board doesn't support old agp and i got nvidia gforce 6200 256mb for the old board. So if you can recommend one for this too 😀

I don't use my comp for gaming much. Well, i do play game but i'm not a gamer. Counter Strike anybody 😀 ? CS:Condition Zero is the best game in my collection! I use my comp mainly for coding and running linux (testing stuff, compiling...kde, gnome, kernel,pufff...anybody here have tried it with p3 processor under 1ghz? lol)

Talk about bargain computer part, in fact I did go to one of the computer fair today in Stratford. I was very impress but also disappointed when it comes down to cpu. The price is just as high as store like pcword or even higher. I spotted an AMD DualCore X3800 for £89 and my heart beat faster and blood pressure went up as well, lol. I was being greedy. Other then that, other computer parts are seem to be good bargain.

One more thing, jamesgoddard if i date your daughter would you open me a bank account? 8O (just kidding, you can think of me as a funny guy 😀 )

 

[cd_rom]

P.s I have no idea what ram to get for my mobo, it supports DDR2 up to 800mgz?

And lol, you guys posted the picture when i was writing up my reply so i thought I was in wrong website. 😀

 

[gOJDO]

So tomorrow i will go buy a cpu and rams. I still try to make my mind up between a AMD Athlon 3500 AM2 (£65) or Sempron 3400 AM2 (£56) (Sempron AM2 is 64 bits, yes?)

Let me make a decision for you, choose the Athlon64 3500 AM2.
It has twice L2 cache(512kB vs 256kB), faster HTT (2000MHz vs 1600MHz) and it is clocked 22.2% higher(2200MHz vs 1800MHz).
It is 25% faster in performance than the Sempron 3400, but it is 16% more expencive. It is better "bang for the buck", it is faster and offers more overclocking configurations.
And yes, all sAM2 CPUs are 64bit capable

 

[cd_rom]

okay, fair enough. You made up my mind 😀 . Thanks!

 

[cd_rom]

well, finally i finished assemble my system from last sunday with amd athlon 64 am2 socket 3500+ and 1gig of ddr2 553 and asus en7300le pci-express graphic card.

Thanks everybody!!!