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mhacdebhandia@yahoo.invalid wrote:
> >> There's a prestige class for warforged who wish to become more "living"
> >> than "construct" - the reforged. The reforged prestige class is
> >> something like the flipside of the warforged juggernaut prestige class
> >> in the Eberron Campaign Setting, which makes a warforged more
> >> construct-like; for instance, at 1st level you gain a bonus equal to
> >> your reforged class level on Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, and
> >> Sense Motive checks, as you become more involved in the lives of living
> >> creatures and understand their social conventions better.
> >
> > Eh. I'm not sure I really like that. How many levels does the class
> > have? Three? Five? Giving them a bonus to offset the Cha penalty is
> > fine, but I don't think a warforged rogue/reforged should be a better
> > socialite than a changeling rogue. Or even human rogue.
>
> Three. The changeling rogue has . . . other . . . advantages, especially with
> substitution levels.
Ah, yes, I remember hearing about changeling rogue substitution levels
trading trapspringing abilities for social ones; a trade I'd be willing
to make for most rogues I'd ever play.
Still, I find it a bit jarring that a warforged who aspires to connect
more with living creatures ends up better at it than if he started out
as a living creature. OTOH, when you don't have to try so hard, you
don't try at all, and all that...
> >> The 3rd level is the controversial one - because it involves undergoing
> >> the Final Reforging, which causes you to lose every warforged feat you
> >> have in exchange for any bonus feat you qualify for, plus Unarmoured
> >> Body as an additional bonus feat. Basically, you lose your composite
> >> plating, armour spikes, metal tracery, all of the most construct-like
> >> elements of a warforged's physical form.
> >
> > Very interesting!
>
> Most people don't see the point, but I do;
The point of the reforged class, or this particular level benefit?
The class serves a clearer purpose, IMO, than the warforged juggernaut;
with a race of hulking semi-constructs built for war, I find a class
that makes them human more interesting than one that makes them hulking
constructs built for war.
> > What's Unarmoured Body like?
>
> It's a 1st-level-only feat (like Adamantine Body, Mithral Body, and Ironwood
> Body) which basically involves you not having the normal composite plating of a
> warforged. So you lose the +2 armour bonus to AC and the fortification, but you
> also lose the 5% arcane spell failure chance.
As I said otherwhere, I'm not impressed. I don't think I'd end up taking
the feat even if I were playing a warforged wizard.
> There's a picture of a sorcerer/reforged NPC described in the book; having taken
> the third and final level of reforged, he basically looks like a thin, dried-out
> human corpse, much like a mummy - presumably his body is mostly composed of
> ironwood.
I've seen it on the link you posted, but I'd prefer to imagine the
reforged as having carefully sculpted wooden human-like (or demihuman-
like) faces, and such... after all, if they went through the trouble to
get pieces of themselves ripped off to become more like the living, why
not go that one extra step?
BTW, how good is the reforged for spellcasters? Does it continue any
spellcasting?
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Jasin Zujovic
jzujovic@inet.hr
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