Should I get a different graphics card so that I can free sync?

[stanleyjo]

I am putting all of the parts together to build my first gaming pc. This is what I currently have:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqJrGG

Should I switch the GTX 1060 6GB SSC GPU for an RX 580 GPU? The reason i'm asking is because the monitor I selected is not too expensive, and it supports free sync. Is it worth it to get the RX 580 GPU so that I can use the free sync feature on the monitor, or get a different monitor? If you have a normal 1080p monitor for instance, do you usually experience screen tearing with the GTX 1060?

A g-sync monitor is out of my price range btw.

Also, if I get an RX 580 GPU, will it be compatible with everything I have selected so far? Also, are there any performance differences between the two cards?

 

[Barty1884]

A 1060 and 580 typically trade blows in performance (depending on the title, of course).... so if you can squeeze a 580+FreeSync monitor in the budget, opposed to a 1060, then it's a pretty good choice, yes.


Screen tearing, is more of a timing issue (timing of frames vs framerate vs refresh rate of the monitor), so not something you can quantify as common with any specific GPU.


A 580 is compatible with everything else, yes. Depends on the title as far as performance differences. Typically, a 1060 and 580 are in the same general ballpark - but some titles/engines etc favor one over the other.


Just an FYI on the build; Ryzen really benefits from faster memory (and dual channel). So, if at all possible, opt for 2x4GB @ 3000MHz or higher.
The 2400MHz will be quite underwhelming for a gaming rig.

 

[stanleyjo]

A 1060 and 580 typically trade blows in performance (depending on the title, of course).... so if you can squeeze a 580+FreeSync monitor in the budget, opposed to a 1060, then it's a pretty good choice, yes.


Screen tearing, is more of a timing issue (timing of frames vs framerate vs refresh rate of the monitor), so not something you can quantify as common with any specific GPU.


A 580 is compatible with everything else, yes. Depends on the title as far as performance differences. Typically, a 1060 and 580 are in the same general ballpark - but some titles/engines etc favor one over the other.


Just an FYI on the build; Ryzen really benefits from faster memory (and dual channel). So, if at all possible, opt for 2x4GB @ 3000MHz or higher.
The 2400MHz will be quite underwhelming for a gaming rig.

So you think I won't have tearing issues with the GTX 1060 6gb and the monitor I chose? And if so what monitor would you recommend for around $100 that you think would be fine with the 1060?

Also i'm trying to find RAM that is affordable (which is hard I know) but I found this. Would this be a good selection for the Ryzen CPU?
https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-3000MHz-Channel-PV48G300C6K/dp/B0157UPYZ8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1530131833&sr=8-3&keywords=ddr4+8gb+3000mhz&dpID=41i%252BJHvXKhL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

[Barty1884]

Shouldn't be an issue, no.

Even though the monitor you chose is FreeSync enabled, doesn't stop you running an Nvidia GPU with it.

Any quality, 1080p panel (preferrably IPS) would be a pretty solid pairing.

I have a variant of this ASUS monitor, and it's good quality.

Made a couple of tweaks to your build (RAM, GPU and Monitor). You're looking at a ~$50 premium for the EVGA 1060.... Not worth it IMO.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer - KG221Q 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor ($117.79 @ B&H)
Total: $986.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 16:43 EDT-0400

Ryzen can be picky with memory though, so I'd need to check the QVL for the motherboard.

Are you actually located in the US?

 

[King_V]

Given that the 6GB 1060 and the 8GB RX580 are now close in price, I'd go for an RX580. The fact that it draws more power is a downside, but being able to use the FreeSync capability I think makes up for that.

 

[stanleyjo]

What did you change about the RAM and the Monitor? They look the same as what I had previously picked out? Also, is there a difference between the EVGA 1060 and the Gigabyte 1060?

And yes I am located in the U.S.

 

[King_V]

The RAM Barty chose is DDR4-3000, so, faster than DDR4-2400.

He didn't change the monitor, but switched to the Gigabyte 1060 because it is $40 less than the EVGA one.

 

[Barty1884]

For some reason, the RAM change (3000MHz) took.... but the monitor did not.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($114.95 @ B&H)
Total: $983.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 16:59 EDT-0400


I wanted to check your location as, in the US, looking to 1st Gen Ryzen doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you're on an extreme budget.

For example, 2nd Gen Ryzen + an X470 motherboard:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($114.95 @ B&H)
Total: $1051.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 17:00 EDT-0400

Gives you higher base clocks and improved memory compatibility.

 

[stanleyjo]

Ok so after more looking, I found this ram:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0779KHZ94/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A26PVB3960EU85&psc=1
I'm pretty sure this is compatible with the CPU and Mobo I chose. It will also match the color scheme I have. Does this look solid?

Also whats the difference between the Gigabyte 1060 and the EVGA 1060 besides the price?

 

[stanleyjo]

For some reason, the RAM change (3000MHz) took.... but the monitor did not.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($91.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($114.95 @ B&H)
Total: $983.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 16:59 EDT-0400


I wanted to check your location as, in the US, looking to 1st Gen Ryzen doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you're on an extreme budget.

For example, 2nd Gen Ryzen + an X470 motherboard:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($114.95 @ B&H)
Total: $1051.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 17:00 EDT-0400

Gives you higher base clocks and improved memory compatibility.

The reason I chose the 1600 CPU is because I have to stay under about $1030 because I haven't factored in peripherals.

 

[Barty1884]

That specific kit does not appear on the QVL for the board.... so compatibility is a crapshoot.
Should run, but no guarantees it's do 3000MHz.
QVL: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-GAMING-PLUS#support-mem-12

The kit I linked, IS on the QVL though, so will work at the rated speeds.


As I mentioned, 2nd Gen Ryzen may be a better choice for the money anyway.


As for the differences; slightly higher base/boost clocks and marginally improved cooling.
Nothing that warrants a +$50 / 17% increase IMO.

The reason I chose the 1600 CPU is because I have to stay under about $1030 because I haven't factored in peripherals.

What color scheme are you going for? $1,030 is doable, even a little less.... making some tweaks in a couple of spots.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix - Nova TG (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($114.95 @ B&H)
Total: $1008.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-27 17:13 EDT-0400