Question Should I include 4070 Ti (non-Super) or 7900 XT in initial testing results for 5070 Ti?

[JarredWaltonGPU]

Hey forumites!

Quick question for you. Would you rather I include the 7900 XT or the 4070 Ti in the upcoming 5070 Ti initial test results? The problem right now is that I'm out of time and can only test one more GPU before the deadline. I can add the other(s) later, but for tomorrow, what would you prefer?

Video on the subject with a bit more detail, maybe:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9l2IiqUYlmo

 

[Lutfij]

RTX vs RTX, so include the RTX4070Ti. Hopefully you can followup with the RX 7900 XT not long after

 

[DRagor]

Who cares when they will cost 1K. You can TLDR your review without even testing anything with "Great GPU but not worth what you have to pay for it".

 

[JayGau]

I mean, that sounds obvious to me. You should compare the new 70 ti with the previous 70 ti. Did you really consider not including the previous gen model in your test? That's the most important metric.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

I mean, that sounds obvious to me. You should compare the new 70 ti with the previous 70 ti. Did you really consider not including the previous gen model in your test? That's the most important metric.

The intention was to include it and the 7900 XT, but time is running out. As for why I wouldn't include it initially, it was superceded by the 4070 Ti Super, which is a more direct precursor. The 4070 Ti was never one of the favored GPUs, due to having 12GB and a 192-bit interface. 4070 Super is nearly the same performance, 4080 was a big step up, and let's not forget it was the canceled RTX 4080 12GB before internet outcry forced Nvidia to rename it.

The 4070 and 4070 Super are more popular, and even the one year later 4070 Ti Super has nearly caught up to the discontinued 4070 Ti in market share (caveat: Steam HW survey numbers).

But I'm now testing the 4070 Ti, and will inevitably face the wrath of angry AMD fans wondering why the 7900 XT wasn't included. 🤷‍♂️

 

[JayGau]

The intention was to include it and the 7900 XT, but time is running out. As for why I wouldn't include it initially, it was superceded by the 4070 Ti Super, which is a more direct precursor. The 4070 Ti was never one of the favored GPUs, due to having 12GB and a 192-bit interface. 4070 Super is nearly the same performance, 4080 was a big step up, and let's not forget it was the canceled RTX 4080 12GB before internet outcry forced Nvidia to rename it.

The 4070 and 4070 Super are more popular, and even the one year later 4070 Ti Super has nearly caught up to the discontinued 4070 Ti in market share (caveat: Steam HW survey numbers).

But I'm now testing the 4070 Ti, and will inevitably face the wrath of angry AMD fans wondering why the 7900 XT wasn't included. 🤷‍♂️

Yes I see your point. But I personally think that it's better to compare the previous non super with the new non super. There will likely be a 5070 Ti Super at some point, and then the comparison with the 4070 Ti Super will be more relevant. But that's just my opinion.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

Yes I see your point. But I personally think that it's better to compare the previous non super with the new non super. There will likely be a 5070 Ti Super at some point, and then the comparison with the 4070 Ti Super will be more relevant. But that's just my opinion.

Possibly, but I don’t know what Nvidia will do with a 5070 Ti Super. I guess it could enable eight more SMs or something. Actually, I expect all of the “Super“ 50-series cards will use 3GB GDDR7 chips. Which will actually make them worthwhile! Maybe. We’ll see next year.

 

[artk2219]

Personally, id say the 7900 XT to have two non Nvidia results from around the same price bracket, but I get your dilemma. I think since you already have a 4070 ti super in there, the XT would be the more valuable data point of the two. Honestly, you're going to be facing angry fan boys either way, you could flip a coin 3 times and leave it up to chance? Regardless, you could make a point to address it with the 9000 series review, if you think you may have some more time for a few more data points on that one. Thank you for these reviews, i know the past month or so has definitely been keeping you busy.

 

[alceryes]

Hey forumites!

Quick question for you. Would you rather I include the 7900 XT or the 4070 Ti in the upcoming 5070 Ti initial test results? The problem right now is that I'm out of time and can only test one more GPU before the deadline. I can add the other(s) later, but for tomorrow, what would you prefer?

Video on the subject with a bit more detail, maybe:

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9l2IiqUYlmo

Ideally, you would have both.
However, I think it depends on what your current comparison chart looks like. If you have no AMD cards currently in the comparison then definitely have the 7900 XT.

I also think the 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti S are close enough for people to extrapolate how the missing one would perform. You could note this a couple times in the review.