[SOLVED] Should I look to Upgrade?

[goodbye8l]

My current PC Parts:

• Mobo: MSI MS-Z87-G45-GAMING
• CPU: i7-4770 Max for the LGA 1150
• Ram: DDR3-16
• GPU: GTX- 1060 6GB

Its been about 6 years since i bought the PC. I been thinking about upgrading but at the same time I don't know if I should or just upgrade my my GPU to an RTX 2070 or 2080. I was thinking about the GPU upgrade but I don't wanna wast money if my CPU is going to bottle neck the whole system.

 

[PC Tailor]

If you've had the PC for 6 years, you may also want to look at your PSU.
What storage drives do you have?

Every system has a bottleneck, and that bottleneck completely varies on the application.

The 1060 is perfectly fine for 1080p gaming, and upgrading the to the 2070 or 2080 may not be necessary depending on what resolution and refresh rate you're running at?

What's your budget?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

What's your budget? What PSU do you have?

Monitor resolution?

The 4770 shows its age a bit, but still performs well and could take advantage of a newer GPU.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

Well, it depends on a number of things for me.

What is your main usage?
What resolution monitor do you have?
What exactly do you want to achieve?
What PSU do you have?

Your CPU is still very capable, and overall for 1080p gaming is pretty solid. There are some CPU heavy games like BF V that might push your CPU a bit. But still decent enough.

I'd prob go with a base upgrade like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($82.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $457.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 10:38 EDT-0400

With your existing hardware, (not knowing PSU, so I've included a good one!) you would have a solid base system with an upgrade path, and a CPU that could easily drive your new GTX2070/2080.

 

[goodbye8l]

If you've had the PC for 6 years, you may also want to look at your PSU.
What storage drives do you have?

Every system has a bottleneck, and that bottleneck completely varies on the application.

The 1060 is perfectly fine for 1080p gaming, and upgrading the to the 2070 or 2080 may not be necessary depending on what resolution and refresh rate you're running at?

What's your budget?

PSU: Corsair CX Series 600 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular
Stroage: HDD Seagate barracuda 1 tb, HP SSD 120GB (Main)
Display:

1. 1080p 165hz
2. 2k 60hz

 

[goodbye8l]

What's your budget? What PSU do you have?

Monitor resolution?

The 4770 shows its age a bit, but still performs well and could take advantage of a newer GPU.

Budget: 1k
PSU: Corsair CX Series 600 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular
Display: 2

1. 1080p 165hz
2. 2k 60hz

 

[PC Tailor]

Well the CX 600 is a green label if I'm not mistaken? In which case you'd probably want to upgrade that too.
i think the CPU could still take advantage of a newer GPU as @remixislandmusic stated. I only just recently upgraded from a 4690K.

i certainly wouldn't go above 2070 for 1080p.

 

[goodbye8l]

Hey there,

Well, it depends on a number of things for me.

What is your main usage?
What resolution monitor do you have?
What exactly do you want to achieve?
What PSU do you have?

Your CPU is still very capable, and overall for 1080p gaming is pretty solid. There are some CPU heavy games like BFV that might push your CPU a bit. But still decent enough.

I'd prob go with a base upgrade like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($82.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $457.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 10:38 EDT-0400

With your existing hardware, (not knowing PSU, so I've included a good one!) you would have a solid base system with an upgrade path, and a CPU that could easily drive your new GTX2070/2080.

What is your main usage? Gaming(FPS, and MOBA)and Rendering(Blender)
What resolution monitor do you have?
Display: 2

1. 1080p 165hz
2. 2k 60hz

What exactly do you want to achieve? Better FPS overall and performance I been having random shuddering when starting programs was going to factory whip my windows 10.
What PSU do you have? Corsair CX Series 600 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular

 

[Finstar]

Budget: 1k

Currency?

 

[goodbye8l]

Currency?

USD

 

[Finstar]

USD

With that budget you could basically upgrade everything you wanted and the PSU.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB EVOKE OC Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $942.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 16:21 EDT-0400

 

[goodbye8l]

With that budget you could basically upgrade everything you wanted and the PSU.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB EVOKE OC Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $942.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 16:21 EDT-0400

You guys think switching to AMD would be good and how much upgrade flexibility is this build.

 

[Finstar]

You guys think switching to AMD would be good and how much upgrade flexibility is this build.

AM4 will have 1 more generation of cpus released on it.
Add to that: there's upgrade options in the current generation up to the 3950X which has 16 cores and 4.7GHz boost speed.
The RX 5700 XT meanwhile matches the RTX 2070 Super in performance and costs less.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Well, blender renders could benefit from a newer CPU with more cores. Also, your older CPU may not be the best for high refresh gaming.
Because of the above, I would consider upgrading CPU aswell as GPU and PSU.

Just for a nice usability upgrade, I would consider a larger boot drive.


PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $96.05 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $72.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card | $499.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $79.90 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1003.61
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 16:30 EDT-0400 |

The Ryzen 5 3600 performs like an I7 8700k in games, and the 3600 is better for many workloads like Blender.
Combine that with the fact the 3600 costs $150 less than the 8700k and the 3600 includes a cooler unlike the 8700k, AMD is the way to go.

For upgradability, you would be able to upgrade to CPU to an 8, 12, or upcoming 16 core if you wish.
I would consider a better motherboard for the 12 or 16 core. The one in Finstars build would be better, but that does cost much more and forces you to drop the GPU down a bit to stay in budget.

The RX5700xt performs better than an RTX2070, but behind an RTX 2070 super. The 5700xt is not a ton behind a 2070 super, but definitely very noticeable and every little bit helps for 165hz.

 

[guanyu210379]

Just to wrap things a bit...

The difficult things is that if your goal is still 1080p 60fps:
4770 will still do the job for most games.
1060 is still among the best value mainstream GPU.

I see you have 2 monitors:
For 1080p 165hz monitor, if you plan to have really high FPS, going for new proc, mainboard and RAM is the way to go.
For 1440p 60Hz, if you like to game on this monitor, a better GPU is the more important upgrade.

 

[hotaru251]

just my 2 cents....

but the 4770 is top 4 cpu for that socket....only the 4770k, 4790 and its k model are better. (and only 4790k would be worth it for pure performance, but only by a few hundred mhz...still limited by quad core limit of the chip)

also ddr 3 ram is actually more expensive than ddr4 now since its nto made as much.


since you seem to want better performance in gaming AND rendering i'd say get a new system.

going for a 8/9th gen i7 gets you a big boost in multithread performance.

Or for a more budget built hit up a ryzen 3rd gen R5 (or r7/R9 if u wanna splurge for best) as in pure workload ryzen beats intel now-a-days (while having only a tiny bit less performance when gaming)


1060 is mainly for 60 fps at 1080p....it can do better based on game to game basis, but modern games (like mhw) its the minimum for 60fps.

but again dont upgrade GPU unless you find that you need to.