Should I really get a Geforce 580 (Fermi)?

[azeem40]

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13328589
My build. I am a beginner gamer but would like to get in to a lot of the latest, and some old, games out there.
Question is in thread title.

Also, is my build more expensive than it should be?

 

[Mousemonkey]

I will be running a 7970 for 1680x1050 - It will perform much faster than anything else regardless of resolution. It's also one of the few cards that have the power to run Metro 2033 @ Max with DoF on - Try doing that at 1680x1050 with a 570 and you will cry.

That alone might make it worth something. :lol:

 

[azeem40]

Thanks for all the help. I will go with the 7970.

 

[choji7]

Nah, 7970 is complete overkill for that resolution, A 6970 or 570 will fullfill your needs for the next few years.

No, its really not. Overkill is when you get like 120 fps at completely maxed out settings. A 7970 will allow you max out settings on the newest games at 1080p and keep a solid 60 fps.

If your only expecting to play games on medium or high settings and/or your only expecting to get 30 fps, then yeah a 7970 would be overkill.

 

[Red Team FTW]

That alone might make it worth something. :lol:

+1^ I would not mind a 7970/50 for my 1680x1050 monitor 60fps on every game FTW ! 6950 and 570 have a time with the high end titles at leased from what I have witnessed even on 1050P reso.

 

[Mousemonkey]

+1^ I would not mind a 7970/50 for my 1680x1050 monitor 60fps on every game FTW ! 6950 and 570 have a time with the high end titles at leased from what I have witnessed even on 1050P reso.

Check your PM's.

 

[Red Team FTW]

Check your PM's.

I am new to Toms how do I check PMs ?

 

[Mousemonkey]

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[Red Team FTW]

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Thanx for the info 🙂


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[Red Team FTW]

If OPs budget is unlimited 7970 FTW

RED TEAM FTW !

 

[de5_Roy]

I am new to Toms how do I check PMs ?

hea...y redteam_ftw, and welcome to tomshardware.
@OP: the 580 might not be worth the price since this year both amd and nvidia are releasing new architecture pcie 3 cards.
when are you buying the pc?
ivy bridge will bring native pcie 3.0 support in a few months. according to the speculations, z77 motherboard (top of the line intel pch) will support pcie 3.0 x8+x8 cfx/sli. that will sit perfectly with the new crop of pcie 3 cards. although, so far gaming hasn't shown any improvement over pcie 2.0. hopefull it'll change in the future.

 

[Red Team FTW]

hea...y redteam_ftw, and welcome to tomshardware.
@OP: the 580 might not be worth the price since this year both amd and nvidia are releasing new architecture pcie 3 cards.
when are you buying the pc?
ivy bridge will bring native pcie 3.0 support in a few months. according to the speculations, z77 motherboard (top of the line intel pch) will support pcie 3.0 x8+x8 cfx/sli. that will sit perfectly with the new crop of pcie 3 cards. although, so far gaming hasn't shown any improvement over pcie 2.0. hopefull it'll change in the future.

Hi http://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/smilies/hello.gif and thanx I to the OP I must agree with ( de5_roy ) about PCI-E 3.0 don't let that sway your opinion because PCI-E 2.0 x16 is still far from bottlenecking even the highest end/Performance Radeon HD 6990 Dual GPU card and aside from bandwidth increases that will not be needed or used for the next gen of cards on PCI-E 3 it will just drive up cost.

 

[choji7]

Hi http://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/smilies/hello.gif and thanx I to the OP I must agree with ( de5_roy ) about PCI-E 3.0 don't let that sway your opinion because PCI-E 2.0 x16 is still far from bottlenecking even the highest end/Performance Radeon HD 6990 Dual GPU card and aside from bandwidth increases that will not be needed or used for the next gen of cards on PCI-E 3 it will just drive up cost.

That's correct.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/49646-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review-21.html

As for this upcoming generation (well next two generations) pcie 2 is still more than adequate for video cards. Now 4+ years from now with future architectures, pcie 3 will make more of a difference. I believe pcie 3.0 is more for future pcie 3 ssd cards.

 

[azeem40]

I am buying the PC at the end of this month or the first few days of February.

 

[atikkur]

you could do..
1. buy that gtx580, if you got money, just will do every game in 1080p.
2. wait for 2 months more.. and buy that 7970.. again if you got the money
3. if you regret it.. sell the 580 after 7970 available, and just buy 7970.
4. no more confusion.

 

[azeem40]

I could wait to build it, but I've already made two topics in New Build and they might get annoyed that I am so indecisive. 😛

 

[Swolern]

you could do..
1. buy that gtx580, if you got money, just will do every game in 1080p.
2. wait for 2 months more.. and buy that 7970.. again if you got the money
3. if you regret it.. sell the 580 after 7970 available, and just buy 7970.
4. no more confusion.

What? Everything u just said was a big ball of confusion.

1. If u buy hardware and sell it used u are going to loose money. Waste.

2. Why buy the 7970 in 2 months? It releaes in a couple days. It's not like the price is going to drop by then......

 

[jjtober1]

I believe those NZXT 200mm case fans are NOT actually 200mm, they are 192mm I think. I don't think that would work with the case you selected, in fact clicking on the fan the first review stated that it does not work with that case.

I personally wouldn't recommend getting a GTX580 if value is a consideration, since that card has probably the lowest price/performance, although the performance is excellent. I would probably recommend a GTX 560TI 448 as the most expensive card worth your while. Probably a 560TI, 6950, or 6870 would do the job just fine as well. A $150 6870 is ~70% the speed of a 580, will save you $350 and you can sit on your unemployed bum and play every game on high settings just fine.

 

[rocknrollz]

Just get the 7970 when you are going to build, it will be the best card for its price. You will not regret it.

 

[azeem40]

So future-proofing won't be good for me to do in this case and I shouldn't get the 7970? I am fine with that because I will have a job sooner or later, and if it will save me $ but still give me good performance, I would be happy with that.