Question Should I upgrade from an i5 -12400 to an i5-14600K or an i7-14700 ?

[mraazx]

Hello Guys,
I am using i5-12400 for more than 3 years now I upgrade from 3060 ti to 3080 Ti while back. Now on my pc I mainly work and play games at 1440p (CS2, AAA etc) for my work I dont need a heavy CPU it gets the job done but for some games my cpu usage is getting 95% and I want to upgrade to i5 14600k or i7 14700 (Non-K).

I know 14th gen is not the best choice but I do have DDR4 ram and motherbaord and if I get full new AMD build i have to change everything and it will cost much more . Please help me to get a practical decision. I would apreicate that

Full spec :
Core™ i5-12400 4.4 GHz
Arctic Liquid freezer 3 240mm
Gigabyte Aorus Pro B660M
Adata XPG Spectrix (16X2) 32GB 3600mhz
Antec HCG 850 Watts 80+ Gold

 

[QyInvoLing]

No.
If 12700kf's price is similar to 14600kf in your region then buy it.

 

[mraazx]

No.
If 12700kf's price is similar to 14600kf in your region then buy it.

I have 12700k available in my county and its $15 cheaper than 14600k but the thing is 14600k is better than 12700k ? as I wont do OC I can also get i7-13700 (Non-K) will that be a better option?

 

[SkyNetRising]

I have 12700k available in my county and its $15 cheaper than 14600k
but the thing is 14600k is better than 12700k ? as I wont do OC
I can also get i7-13700 (Non-K) will that be a better option?

i5-14600k - is 6core/12thread + 8 efficiency cores
i7-12700k - is 8 cores/16threads + 4 efficiency cores
i7-13700 - is 8 cores/16threads + 8 efficiency cores
You can basically ignore efficiency cores. They are rather weak. For a gaming computer you may even want to disable them.

i5 is the weakest. Similar to your existing i5-12400 ( just slightly higher single core clocks).
i7-12700k and i7-13700 are very similar (13700 has just slightly higher single core clocks).

Choose i7-12700k or i7-13700 (whichever costs less in your region).

Install newest BIOS update before upgrading cpu.
13gen cpus have possible deterioration, if you don't have necessary BIOS update to mitigate the issue.

 

[mraazx]

i5-14600k - is 6core/12thread + 8 efficiency cores
i7-12700k - is 8 cores/16threads + 4 efficiency cores
i7-13700 - is 8 cores/16threads + 8 efficiency cores
You can basically ignore efficiency cores. They are rather weak. For a gaming computer you may even want to disable them.

i5 is the weakest. Similar to your existing i5-12400 ( just slightly higher single core clocks).
i7-12700k and i7-13700 are very similar (13700 has just slightly higher single core clocks).

Choose i7-12700k or i7-13700 (whichever costs less in your region).

Install newest BIOS update before upgrading cpu.
13gen cpus have possible deterioration, if you don't have necessary BIOS update to mitigate the issue.

price difference between i7-12700k or i7-13700 is $70 consedering that will i7-12700k lasts me next 3 years at least with stable gaming performance ? But also Extra $70 I can spent no issues. I saw some reivews i5-14600k is beating i9-12900k I know IPC gain is not significant on Intel

 

[rene641]

I would probably believe an AI that says, see below, and would leave the CPU upgrade until the next GPU upgrade...:



The i5-12400F paired with an RTX 3080 Ti will generally not be a significant bottleneck, especially at 1440p and above. However, at 1080p, some CPU-intensive games might experience minor performance limitations.

Elaboration:

• 1080p Bottleneck:
  In some CPU-intensive games at 1080p, the i5-12400F might limit the performance of the RTX 3080 Ti, particularly in fast-paced competitive titles, strategy games, or older games with complex physics.
• 1440p and Higher:
  At higher resolutions like 1440p, the RTX 3080 Ti is more likely to be the primary bottleneck, and the i5-12400F will have less of an impact.
• CPU-intensive games:
  Games that heavily rely on the CPU's processing power, like some older titles or competitive online games, might see a slight bottleneck, especially at 1080p, says Quora.
  
  Gaming at 1440p and above:
  At 1440p, the RTX 3080 Ti will be more likely to be the limiting factor, and the i5-12400F will be sufficient for most games.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[mraazx]

I would probably believe an AI that says, see below, and would leave the CPU upgrade until the next GPU upgrade...:



The i5-12400F paired with an RTX 3080 Ti will generally not be a significant bottleneck, especially at 1440p and above. However, at 1080p, some CPU-intensive games might experience minor performance limitations.

Elaboration:

• 1080p Bottleneck:
  In some CPU-intensive games at 1080p, the i5-12400F might limit the performance of the RTX 3080 Ti, particularly in fast-paced competitive titles, strategy games, or older games with complex physics.
• 1440p and Higher:
  At higher resolutions like 1440p, the RTX 3080 Ti is more likely to be the primary bottleneck, and the i5-12400F will have less of an impact.
• CPU-intensive games:
  Games that heavily rely on the CPU's processing power, like some older titles or competitive online games, might see a slight bottleneck, especially at 1080p, says Quora.
  
  Gaming at 1440p and above:
  At 1440p, the RTX 3080 Ti will be more likely to be the limiting factor, and the i5-12400F will be sufficient for most games.
  
  
  
  
  
  

My i5-12400 still good but as i mentioned it is getting weaker example I am playing doom dark ages cpu usage is constantly at 95% so I was wondering if an upgrade would give me a better results . Not to mention I have terrible fps drops 1% lows on CS2 right now

 

[rene641]

And what about your GPU usage? Compare your GPU usage and FPS here to where the 3080Ti is with the Ryzen 9800x3d. How big is the difference?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHDLqHogQgM

 

[Eximo]

For gaming you want to look at the single thread performance:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-12700K-vs-Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i5-14600K

The slight advantage of the 12700K is that, because of the two extra P-cores, it has more total cache which can be shared. 13th and 14th gen have more L2 cache per core, which is better generally. If it is within your means, a 13700 might be a good compromise. Since this is likely the last LGA1700 CPU you are buying, makes more sense to invest in something with a little more longevity.

Unless Bartlett Lake really comes out, then I may indeed pick up the 12 P core CPU.

 

[mraazx]

And what about your GPU usage? Compare your GPU usage and FPS here to where the 3080Ti is with the Ryzen 9800x3d. How big is the difference?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHDLqHogQgM

My GPU usage is at 97-98%

 

[rene641]

I'd say in that case buying a higher CPU is throwing money out the window. What do you expect would happen after a more powerful CPU is installed?

 

[mraazx]

For gaming you want to look at the single thread performance:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-12700K-vs-Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i5-14600K

The slight advantage of the 12700K is that, because of the two extra P-cores, it has more total cache which can be shared. 13th and 14th gen have more L2 cache per core, which is better generally. If it is within your means, a 13700 might be a good compromise. Since this is likely the last LGA1700 CPU you are buying, makes more sense to invest in something with a little more longevity.

Unless Bartlett Lake really comes out, then I may indeed pick up the 12 P core CPU.

I'd say in that case buying a higher CPU is throwing money out the window. What do you expect would happen after a more powerful CPU is installed?

Only reason i had an upgrade in mind because I am still at 1700 and I want to keep using it next 2-3 years at least and 1700 processor are still available in the market. 3080 Ti is serving me well I mean really well I think next 1-2 year it will do as well then I can get RTX 6080 something in the future but as I mentioned recently in last 3 months when I am on chrome even doing my office taks i need a lot of tabs cpu usage goes to 100% pc gets like 1-2 sec lag so I was thinking maybe an upgrade would give me smoother experience . I am not 100% determined but I may connsider options .

 

[mraazx]

For gaming you want to look at the single thread performance:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-12700K-vs-Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i5-14600K

The slight advantage of the 12700K is that, because of the two extra P-cores, it has more total cache which can be shared. 13th and 14th gen have more L2 cache per core, which is better generally. If it is within your means, a 13700 might be a good compromise. Since this is likely the last LGA1700 CPU you are buying, makes more sense to invest in something with a little more longevity.

Unless Bartlett Lake really comes out, then I may indeed pick up the 12 P core CPU.

Yes I am planning to stay on lga 1700 for little bit longer next 2-3 years at least 13700 might be a good option for me. I cant find any reviews where 13700 Non K showing how much power its drawing considering its 65 watt TDP I know 13700k is powerhouse and hard to cool as i have 240mm Liquid freezer 3 i have to think that also . 13600k I saw in games typically it uses 80-100 watts max

 

[logainofhades]

After a recent video from jayztwocents, regarding his personal 14900k, I would say avoid 14th gen. He ran his at voltages far below what was believed to cause degradation, yet his chip degraded anyway. He also mentioned Intel was coming out with another supposed fix soon. I would just go with a 12700k and call it good.