[SOLVED] Should i upgrade PC or buy a new one?

[sean222]

Hi guys.

My GPU is broken, so I think that this is time to buy a new PC (my current one is 4 years old). Or upgrade maybe?

Here are my specs:
CPU: Intel i5 6500
MB: MSi B150A Gaming Pro
GPU: ASUS STRIX R9 390 OC 8GB Gaming
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 1 x 8GB 2133 MHz
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3
HDD: WD Blue 1TB
SSD: ADATA SP550 120 GB

PC is mainly for gaming, but I do other staff like recording and mixing music and i5 6500 has a little problem with virtual plugins.

What do you think? Should I only upgrade GPU + RAM (8 is not good) or go four GPU, MB, CPU,RAM? I can use PSU and storage untis from the old one.

Want to hear your opinion, thanks for every reply.

 

[WildCard999]

What is your budget for these upgrades or new build?

 

[sean222]

What is your budget for these upgrades or new build?

For new build around 1 000 €.
Upgrade for what is necessary: i found MSI RTX 2070 SUPER VENTUS OC for 439,15 € + 2 x 8 GB RAM for around 100 € because I can't find my Kingston in stores.

 

[WildCard999]

With your budget I'd opt for a newer platform and reuse the PSU & HDD (Maybe case depending on the model). Disregard the error message as the MSI MAX boards ship with a updated BIOS.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€177.99 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€109.80 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€86.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€54.80 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card (€494.90 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case (€81.98 @ ARLT)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€0.00)
Total: €1006.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-26 12:34 CET+0100

Edit: As long as the MSI 2070S Ventus is new or has a warranty then it would be a good choice.

 

[RodroX]

WildCard 999 has a very good list there.

This next one is very similar, just with a few changes, but the basic core of the build is the same:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€177.99 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€39.79 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€109.80 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€86.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€69.80 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€45.80 @ Alza)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card (€494.90 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case (€85.80 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.99 @ ARLT)
Total: €1215.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-26 13:19 CET+0100

Cheers

 

[LenaM]

I would prefere to build a new one if you have the money..

 

[sean222]

Guys thank you for your input. I'm long time user of Intel CPUs, because I hada bad experience with AMD products, but are these Ryzen CPUs worth it? What about temperature and reliability? Because every AMD product I had in my hands had big temperature issues right from the start.

 

[RodroX]

Guys thank you for your input. I'm long time user of Intel CPUs, because I hada bad experience with AMD products, but are these Ryzen CPUs worth it? What about temperature and reliability? Because every AMD product I had in my hands had big temperature issues right from the start.

I been using my Ryzen 5 3600 every day since end of July 2019 and soo far, with my aftermarket cooler and basic motherboard (which are very budget) I had no problems at all.

If you wana go the intel way, I may post you a list with the i7 9700K which I really wont advice you to buy it cause of the lack of hyperthreading, but since the Core i5 are a NO WAY! right now theres no much too choose from.
I feel the i9 9900K is the only cpu from intel that its worth your money. But we would have to cheap down a lot on the GPU to add that one to the list.

 

[RodroX]

There you go, of course if you can spend ~110 more, you could get the same RTX 2070 Super, and + ~65 more will get you an RTX 2060 Super.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700F 3 GHz 8-Core Processor (€324.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler (€65.80 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€129.80 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€86.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€69.80 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€45.80 @ Alza)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (€380.90 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case (€85.80 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€104.99 @ ARLT)
Total: €1294.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-26 13:58 CET+0100

 

[WildCard999]

Guys thank you for your input. I'm long time user of Intel CPUs, because I hada bad experience with AMD products, but are these Ryzen CPUs worth it? What about temperature and reliability? Because every AMD product I had in my hands had big temperature issues right from the start.

AMD is way better now then it was in the FX days (ran way too hot and poor performance per core). Even the stock coolers are sufficient to keep the CPU's well within safe limits. I had someone the other day posting on here that had a Ryzen 3600, using the stock cooler with a 34C room temp and was staying under 80C while gaming (which is safe).

 

[RodroX]

AMD is way better now then it was in the FX days (ran way too hot and poor performance per core). Even the stock coolers are sufficient to keep the CPU's well within safe limits. I had someone the other day posting on here that had a Ryzen 3600, using the stock cooler with a 34C room temp and was staying under 80C while gaming (which is safe).

Wildcard is right about that too, just to be clear, I had to replace the stock cooler beacuse I just couldn't stand the pitch (noise) the stock cooler did, I have a very good hearing and I just couldn't take it.

But yeah, after I work a bit the case fans on my really budget case, the stock cooler was enough to keep the R5 3600 in place.

Is just that the aftermarket cooler I got is way more pleasent sound wise.

And yeah, the Core i7 9700K and the likes (K ones) don't come with any type of stock cooler.

 

[WildCard999]

Agreed, the stock coolers work well but can be a bit audible but this also comes down to your preference. I'd try the stock out and if it's too loud then replace with a decent mid range aftermarket cooler like a CM 212 Black or Noctua.

 

[sean222]

Hmm I see that Intel si not a good choice right now. But I'm still feeling litte unsecure about AMD...I'm going to think about it.

One more question: is there big difference in terms of real performance between RTX 2060/RTX 2070 or RTX 2060 S/RTX 2070 S ?

 

[RodroX]

RTX 2060 is the "slowest", if you can call it that (still pretty good card for most situations)
RTX 2060 Super -> almost as fast as the old RTX 2070
RTX 2070 Super -> almost as fast as the old RTX 2080

Cheers