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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:34:04 GMT, "Mox 13" <nospam@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>Ok, this is the only time that I am going to write on this subject. I have
>watched this debate for months with no desire to get involved. I don't
>believe that my voice, or the voices of a few others will have any effect on
>Valve/Steam's market strategy.
You'd be surprised at how one voice can make a difference. And for
those that have any issue with Steam, they should be sending letters
to Valve HQ.
While posting in here is interesting and provides some insite into
other peoples concerns, I'm not sure anyone from Valve is in here.
> Apparently the overwhelming majority of
>posters on this group support Valve and Steam.
> I have no interest in
>debating them or getting into a war with them. They must have an internet
>connection fast enough to take advantage of the things that Steam offers. I
>am simply not in the same boat and have no real choice in the matter. I live
>pretty far from the nearest town, therefore DSL, Cable, or Wireless internet
>is not available in my area.
My local newspaper had an article on hi-speed connections. South
Korea has something like 80% of users with hi-speed, and they get
around 5mbs downloads.
Whereas in the US it's only around 30% and they get 3mbs downloads.
30%? I would think that a lot of gamers in the US would be sending
off letters to Valve HQ.
> Also the phone lines are pretty old so my dial
>up connection runs at a steady 26.4 Kbps. I don't see Satellite internet as
>a viable option due to expense, FAP, and lack of online gaming. This means
>that for me, on a fresh install of HL2 the updates take about 12-15 hours.
>Buying a game online would probably take about a week to download. This is
>simply too long to tie up my connection. If Valve/Steam would just allow
>stand alone downloads rather than only online installs it would help
>greatly. I could download them on a computer in town and transfer them to my
>computer at home.
>
Are you talking about d/l the files in town and then burning them to a
CD? But even then, there's still many other gamers like in the US
that probably don't have the same access to a hi-speed connection that
you do.
If Valve sticks with Steam, they really need to find a work around for
'all' modem users. Whether its to order the update via CD/DVD, or
provide the updates in gaming magazines, thru 3rd party, ....
>I loved HL2 and am still downloading SP maps (in town) and working my
>through them.
>
>Since Valve/Steam has abandoned the unconnected, or connection challenged
>users, my future dollars and I'm guessing a few other peoples dollars,
>euros, yen, etc. will be going on game platforms that are a bit more
>friendly to us.
>
>Mox
>
>
>,snip>
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:34:04 GMT, "Mox 13" <nospam@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>Ok, this is the only time that I am going to write on this subject. I have
>watched this debate for months with no desire to get involved. I don't
>believe that my voice, or the voices of a few others will have any effect on
>Valve/Steam's market strategy.
You'd be surprised at how one voice can make a difference. And for
those that have any issue with Steam, they should be sending letters
to Valve HQ.
While posting in here is interesting and provides some insite into
other peoples concerns, I'm not sure anyone from Valve is in here.
> Apparently the overwhelming majority of
>posters on this group support Valve and Steam.
> I have no interest in
>debating them or getting into a war with them. They must have an internet
>connection fast enough to take advantage of the things that Steam offers. I
>am simply not in the same boat and have no real choice in the matter. I live
>pretty far from the nearest town, therefore DSL, Cable, or Wireless internet
>is not available in my area.
My local newspaper had an article on hi-speed connections. South
Korea has something like 80% of users with hi-speed, and they get
around 5mbs downloads.
Whereas in the US it's only around 30% and they get 3mbs downloads.
30%? I would think that a lot of gamers in the US would be sending
off letters to Valve HQ.
> Also the phone lines are pretty old so my dial
>up connection runs at a steady 26.4 Kbps. I don't see Satellite internet as
>a viable option due to expense, FAP, and lack of online gaming. This means
>that for me, on a fresh install of HL2 the updates take about 12-15 hours.
>Buying a game online would probably take about a week to download. This is
>simply too long to tie up my connection. If Valve/Steam would just allow
>stand alone downloads rather than only online installs it would help
>greatly. I could download them on a computer in town and transfer them to my
>computer at home.
>
Are you talking about d/l the files in town and then burning them to a
CD? But even then, there's still many other gamers like in the US
that probably don't have the same access to a hi-speed connection that
you do.
If Valve sticks with Steam, they really need to find a work around for
'all' modem users. Whether its to order the update via CD/DVD, or
provide the updates in gaming magazines, thru 3rd party, ....
>I loved HL2 and am still downloading SP maps (in town) and working my
>through them.
>
>Since Valve/Steam has abandoned the unconnected, or connection challenged
>users, my future dollars and I'm guessing a few other peoples dollars,
>euros, yen, etc. will be going on game platforms that are a bit more
>friendly to us.
>
>Mox
>
>
>,snip>
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