Six Different Diablo III Characters Have Same Exact Item

[bert123]

"You can't claim you thought the guy selling rolexes out of the back of his car for 10 dollars was a licensed salesman. If you don't think that's fair...too bad."

So you are comparing buying a an item from the auction house on a server hosted and owned by Blizzard, in a game additionally protected by DRM and online only requirement, to buying a rolex out of the back of a car?

Some people are so dense I'm amazed they even manage to figure out how to operate a computer.

 

[2phatcows]

The "Dupe" method is to get a friend to log into your account from a different IP address and steal your gear. Then call Blizz support and have them restore your gear. Now you have 2 copies. you get 2 free restores before they ban you from the RMAH. Now take those "duped" items and pull that restore trick a few times across a few accounts and now you have 6 copies. There was also a "duping" method of killing a group of 3 elites at the same time which would create 3 copies of the same loot. So DRM has done a great job compared to D2. No game is perfect, but Blizz has done a great job so far considering gold still has ingame as well as monetary value.

 

[jamoise]

[citation][nom]aznguy0028[/nom]When the thread was brought up on D3's forum, the OP didn't want to suggest that the players in question were duping or hacking, merely pointing out the fact that there are 6 duplicate high valued sources (all BS to me). When we saw that, we knew that Blizz was going to take action against the players (because it was a hot thread, surely would get their attention) so he went through his AH to find the record of him buying the source in a legit manner and not attaining it by any illegal means against the t.o.s. So logically, we thought that since it's Blizz AH, buying an item off there with a picture record will prove his innocence (even though Blizz says they have an AH record for everyone.) In the end, it didn't turn out that way. He still got banned even after calling/emailing dozens of time with proof. How can I trust a company's AH when buying a high value item on their service can get me banned? So the burden of proof is on the customer when I’m trying to buy an upgrade? How am I suppose to know it’s duped (if it even was somehow), am I suppose to search every inch of the internet for duplicate items just to make sure it’s safe? Their 24/7 online DRM policy/AH is suppose to prevent all this. Yet in the end, the customer got the shaft. I'm done with Blizzard, they have lost me as a customer after what they did to my friend.[/citation]

Maybe he wasn't banned for buying the Duped item in question but banned for methods used in obtaining 400 million in gold. which by the sounds of it, he may have more than 400 million if it was just "one" of his many transactions he had to sort through to find this particular one. how does one get 400 million in gold in 500 hours?

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]assasin32[/nom]I've done the same on the same character before was quite surprised too. Also found identical guns stat wise but different levels I think. And numerous near identical but off by 1 small value in a stat here or there. So playing the numbers don't always tell the whole picture, as even if there are over 16billion weapon combinations that can drop. How many weapon combo's can drop at that time? As I highly doubt a lv40 weapon will drop for a lv15 player.[/citation]

you also have to take into account that there will be bare minimum stats in some areas too, or the higher stats are weighted more heavily than a low stat.

like if a stat has a range of 1-1000, and its weighted more heavily twards the 800, that means that finding that item with a 1 may be a 1 in 1 million, and finding it with a 1000 may be 1 in 1000, and a 800 may be a 1 in 50

now, if i had to guess, hundred of thousands of people playing the game, all getting that item to drop may not be unheard of, and also having a item that is rare and broken isnt unheard of also, its possible that stat randoming is broke for that item, and its also possible that that item has very heavy weights on certain stats.

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]Wolley74[/nom]Always online DRM would stop this they said, Always online would be FIIINE they said, **** THAT AND LET ME PLAY IT WHEN AND WHERE I WANT, NOT JUST WHEN MY NET CAN SUPPORT IT[/citation]

>2012
>not having a fast, reliable and unmetered net connection everywhere and all the time

Where do you live?

 

[jarred125]

[citation][nom]aznguy0028[/nom]Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty". If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.[/citation]

I think what is worse than that is your friend has spent TWENTY full days playing a game ... 20 days out of 97 (if we're counting all the way back since release).

Tell him to go outside.

 

[marthisdil]

[citation][nom]aznguy0028[/nom]Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty". If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.[/citation]
And anyone can make a credible modification to a screenshot pretty easily with just about any graphic editor. It's why almost NO MMO support team accepts screenshots of things. Internal logging usually provides far more evidence.

If your friend did purchase it from the AH, that's a simple lookup in a logging database of all AH transactions that they most certainly have.

 

[elbert]

If these items were purchases on the real money auction house I could see why blizzard does nothing. It would make them a party to fraud. They take a cut on the purchase price. Trying to remove the items would require blizzard to fully refund all the cost even if the sellers have cashed out. This could quickly become a financial nightmare for blizzard.

 

[frank_drebin]

[citation][nom]aznguy0028[/nom]Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty". If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.[/citation]

how in the world you farm 400mil??

 

[pacioli]

Faetal didn't remove his gear... he got hacked by gold farmers and was left buck-naked!

 

[crateria]

[citation][nom]jamoise[/nom]Maybe he wasn't banned for buying the Duped item in question but banned for methods used in obtaining 400 million in gold. which by the sounds of it, he may have more than 400 million if it was just "one" of his many transactions he had to sort through to find this particular one. how does one get 400 million in gold in 500 hours?[/citation]

Oh I don't know, maybe by being lucky or not sucking at the game? It isn't that hard, look at some of the people on twitch. Christaras has close to 2 billion gold with another 2 billion gold in value in his gear. You get it by farming fast, charging people for crafting, etc. Like I said, getting lucky and finding one item could alone get you that much gold, or by NOT SUCKING like apparently you do.

I made 100m alone just by playing the market and buying items and reselling them for higher value, so I have a lot of transactions. He probably has a lot from selling a lot of items by NOT SUCKING at the game and finding a lot of items. I love how you suck so much though that you automatically think someone isn't legit because they have a lot of transactions in the AH log and have 400m gold in 500 hrs of playing (he also probably had way more than 400m gold too for 500 hrs).

Not to mention you could just by all that gold off the RMAH. God you're a newb.

 

[Guest]

Marcus52 brought up the most important point of all:

Cheaters come online and plant seeds of doubt against Blizzard, calling any anti-cheat and security measures into question no matter what is actually happening out there in the wild, just creating mass confusion everywhere by telling completely made-up stories or only half of a genuine one.

"I got hacked, with an authenticator!" "I didn't cheat, but I got banned!" .. and so on..

So long as the system is set up where dishonest people can operate with more or less complete anonymity and spread misinformation with zero proof, and have nothing to lose by doing all this, it will keep happening.

When people must behave online with, at least, the same basic courtesies as offline, then we will see some changes.

 

[Tab54o]

This game is such a friggin mess. Glad I didn't buy it.

 

[Guest]

Congratulations. Blizzard just trolled the fuck out of you all.