Size vs speed... which would be better 850evo 1tb or 850pro 512gb?

[Doorstopper]

Im in the process of looking up different parts for my new pc, I've ordered mostly everything, but I was still curious about the storage solution... for the majority this will be used for gaming, and eventually I'm going to try my hand at streaming, but that won't be for a while. And I was just wondering with what I'm planning, would it be better to get the lower cost 850pro 512gb or spend the extra 60$ and go for an 850evo 1tb... being as this will primarily for gaming I was thinking to just go with the 1tb version for the sake of more games on it. But will the getting an 850pro help at all?

 

[mcnumpty23]

512gb should be plenty unless you are going to install a lot of very big games at the same time

stick with the 850 evo the pro costs more mainly its got a bigger TBF but the evo will go way over what samsung quote any way

had one from a server with over 2x written/read than what the TBF is and it still worked fine

 

[PsyKhiqZero]

Size is far more important when it comes to desktop use SSD. You can look at the real world benchmarks for SSD's in RAID or PCI-e SSD's and you can see that they make little real world difference despite huge speed advantages. There comes a point when loading games the processing time and internet connection for online games becomes a bottleneck when loading images. I would get the 1TB SSD vs a faster 512, especially when games are already pushing 40GB installs.

 

[Doorstopper]

PsyKhiqZero: that's what I was thinking because I was wanting to install most if not all of my steam library, which has a couple dozen games. Mostly large, and a few indie games. Also I plan on getting BF1 which itself is 50gbs... I also have a couple games on Origin (damn you EA) I want to download that are 30+ gbs...
I was told to question my choice tho because my uncle who helped me build my first pc was unsure himself because last time we didn't go anywhere near this high of a ssd.

 

[PsyKhiqZero]

If anything I would get an SSD and eventually a regular slow and quiet HDD for backing up games. Use steam backup to move games to the HDD that you don't plan on playing anymore. Then you can avoid downloading them again if you get the urge.

 

[soewhaty]

Can't remember very well, so take it with a grain of salt but when I was doing my research I think the Pro was an MLC whereas the EVO is TLC ... SLC would be best in terms of durability and also performance (I think) but requires more $$$ ...

Some old videos here but still conveying the msg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zLk7nJdJcc and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLkEfGT7XM and

 

[Doorstopper]

Yeah I actually will be using an old seagate drive that I picked up from a local refurbished pc parts store just for all my back ups, movies, music, and such... I know it's not the most ideal solution, but it was only $75 for an old 5900rpm 2tb hdd.

As for MLC, TLC, and SLC... I have no idea what the difference is, and my phone won't let me open the links you posted.

 

[soewhaty]

Yeah I actually will be using an old seagate drive that I picked up from a local refurbished pc parts store just for all my back ups, movies, music, and such... I know it's not the most ideal solution, but it was only $75 for an old 5900rpm 2tb hdd.

As for MLC, TLC, and SLC... I have no idea what the difference is, and my phone won't let me open the links you posted.

Hm ... not that bad ... I have the 256gb 850Pro as on OS drive and have on it a work partition in case I need to work on some heavy image or 3d modelling files, the rest is all stored and accessed from a 1tb sata-II 3Gb/s 5400rpm internal hdd. With this config, and staying away from bloatjunk, things run pretty fast, so in your case, though you are right in saying that it isn't the best scenario, I'd say it's pretty good. Besides, SSDs are not for storing data, HDDs are for that so I think you've done the right choice.

As to the vids - It's YV vids so dunno why u cant see em, but the 3 terms are just the technology used - SLC - single level cell or 1 bit per cell - 2 logic states 1/0, MLC - multi level cell i.e. 2 bit per cell, 4 logic states 1/0 1/1 0/0 0/1 and TLC - 3 bits per cell - 8 logic states ... you can figure em out. The technology has evolved nowadays and tlc is more durable now but SLC would be preferable, though there are tradeoffs and caveats. Also, data is easier to read from SLC than it is from a TLC. That said, I'm not 100% convinced how much the real performance and durability difference is btwn modern day SLC vs TLC but it requires some googling and figuring out. This might help - http://www.kingston.com/us/community/ArticleDetail/ArticleId/12?Article-Title=NAND-Flash-Technology-and-Solid-State-Drives-SSDs

As to your choice of producer - I'd stay away from Samsung, though I own 1. I think their SSDs are ok price-wise and even performance-wise, but beware of what happened a year or 2 ago when Samsung killed half the worlds 850Pro's with the way their non-magical Magician pushed the then 02 firmware upgrade. Need I mention what is happening nowadays with their flagship phones? So ... yes, competitive price they do offer, but that clearly comes at the cost of some corner-cutting here and there as you can see. When I was looking for an ssd and landed on the 850Pro 2 years ago - a real competitor for it was the SanDisk Extreme PRO https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-pro-ssd. SanDisk have prolly introduced even better ssds by now. Also, their price was similar to Samsungs price back then so ... take your pick. If I could rewind I'd prolly go with SanDisk.