Skylake vs i7 3960x

[SubSt8]

So I have been having performance issues with my PC for quite some time and I've tried countless methods to try to fix it. If you are curious here is the thread I have been working on trying to solve this issue:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2752502/low-gpu-ussage-low-fps.html#16449587

Anyways, I am giving up and looking to replace my motherboard and wanted to know if I ought to also upgrade to skylake or if I would be better off sticking with my current CPU. My current CPU might actually be the cause of my issues so I may end up having to replace it anyways so I am curious how the new CPU's compare to my CPU.

Thanks for any and all help.

 

[SubSt8]

From what I've read, they say its like a 30% increase in performance from this series to skylake but I am not sure if they are including the i73960x in those estimations.

 

[nostall]

The Skylake boards will NOT accept your 2011 processor, nor will a Skylake CPU work in your board.
So, Upgrading to Skylake will require a new mobo and new processor. In addition Skylake doesn't support DDR3, it is a DDR 4 platform.
Unless you really think a 30% performance increase is worth that much money, I would stick with your 2011 socket: It is still a really powerful and fast platform.
I looked at your other thread. Though those frame rates look low, keep in mind that the games you mentioned are both very demanding graphically and those frame rates are quite playable.
One thing to check is whether the games are using Both cards. MSI Afterburner or EVGA PrecisionX will enable you to record data while playing and the two video cards should be within 5-10% percent of each other if they are being used. If you find they are Not actually running in SLI check your settings in the Nvidia control panel.

 

[SubSt8]

The Skylake boards will NOT accept your 2011 processor, nor will a Skylake CPU work in your board.
So, Upgrading to Skylake will require a new mobo and new processor. In addition Skylake doesn't support DDR3, it is a DDR 4 platform.
Unless you really think a 30% performance increase is worth that much money, I would stick with your 2011 socket: It is still a really powerful and fast platform.
I looked at your other thread. Though those frame rates look low, keep in mind that the games you mentioned are both very demanding graphically and those frame rates are quite playable.
One thing to check is whether the games are using Both cards. MSI Afterburner or EVGA PrecisionX will enable you to record data while playing and the two video cards should be within 5-10% percent of each other if they are being used. If you find they are Not actually running in SLI check your settings in the Nvidia control panel.

I mean...I said in my post that I was going to be replacing my motherboard.

Also I should be able to max BF4 on graphics with my machine and get a constant 144, I'm not asking if my frames are playable, they are. But my machine isn't performing the way it should.

 

[nostall]

The Skylake boards will NOT accept your 2011 processor, nor will a Skylake CPU work in your board.
So, Upgrading to Skylake will require a new mobo and new processor. In addition Skylake doesn't support DDR3, it is a DDR 4 platform.
Unless you really think a 30% performance increase is worth that much money, I would stick with your 2011 socket: It is still a really powerful and fast platform.
I looked at your other thread. Though those frame rates look low, keep in mind that the games you mentioned are both very demanding graphically and those frame rates are quite playable.
One thing to check is whether the games are using Both cards. MSI Afterburner or EVGA PrecisionX will enable you to record data while playing and the two video cards should be within 5-10% percent of each other if they are being used. If you find they are Not actually running in SLI check your settings in the Nvidia control panel.

I mean...I said in my post that I was going to be replacing my motherboard.

Also I should be able to max BF4 on graphics with my machine and get a constant 144, I'm not asking if my frames are playable, they are. But my machine isn't performing the way it should.

Sorry, I misunderstood that whole post: I get it now.
If you decide to dump the current CPU, then, as you know, the choices are the new 2011-3 or the 1151 skylake. I haven't read enough about Skylake to know if it will be better then 2011-3, but the 5820K in 2011-3 does seem to perform very well; price, however, may be a deciding factor. I took my first look at retail Skylake stuff yesterday (didn't actually realize it was out) and was impressed by the "reasonable" prices: And maybe Intel will keep the 1151 socket around for a longer time.
Sorry if this isn't much help.

 

[SubSt8]

Still looking for some more advice on this!

 

[nostall]

Roger that, sorry I wasn't much help.
Anybody else have some input???

 

[SubSt8]

Roger that, sorry I wasn't much help.
Anybody else have some input???

Oh no it wasn't a matter of not being helpful, just looking for more advice!

 

[SubSt8]

Still looking for more opinions.

 

[SubSt8]

Still seeking advice and opinions.

 

[RobCrezz]

Assuming your current system works fine, then skylake isnt really an upgrade.

Might be better for us to help diagnose the issue with your current setup. Its unlikely to be the cpu at fault, unless its overheating and throttling - have you monitored your temperatures? Could you list your full specs?

 

[xStampede]

I got Skylake 6700k for a week now and i can tell you that it performs much better than the 4790 all around, much lower temps, at low load it remains at room temperature and at long 100% load it goes up to 52°C with my Phanteks TC12DX CPU cooler in microATX case.

There are many features and improvements that are not talked about and the early Skylake reviews were not fair due to motherboard bios versions not being ready at that time.

For gaming 6700k is better and heavily outperforms 5820k. Also if i compare the 6700k to 4790 Haswell i had i can tell you that everything is much smoother in games and overall, the 970 G1 gaming i got performs better than expected with this CPU at stock.

 

[SubSt8]

Assuming your current system works fine, then skylake isnt really an upgrade.

Might be better for us to help diagnose the issue with your current setup. Its unlikely to be the cpu at fault, unless its overheating and throttling - have you monitored your temperatures? Could you list your full specs?

I mean literally my first sentence is me saying that my system isn't working and then right under it I link to my thread where I have been trouble shooting the issue.

 

[SubSt8]

I got Skylake 6700k for a week now and i can tell you that it performs much better than the 4790 all around, much lower temps, at low load it remains at room temperature and at long 100% load it goes up to 52°C with my Phanteks TC12DX CPU cooler in microATX case.

There are many features and improvements that are not talked about and the early Skylake reviews were not fair due to motherboard bios versions not being ready at that time.

For gaming 6700k is better and heavily outperforms 5820k. Also if i compare the 6700k to 4790 Haswell i had i can tell you that everything is much smoother in games and overall, the 970 G1 gaming i got performs better than expected with this CPU at stock.

Hmmm yeah I am pretty much convinced I can't go wrong with the 6700k at this point, unless someone can magically find the fault with my system before I buy this CPU.

 

[tps3443]

Lol if you think replacing a 3960X "6" core Intel i7 with a I7 6700K then you are wrong, or not thinking correctly.

You will be losing 24 PCI-E lanes, you will also be losing 2 cores, and bye bye 4 logical processors too, and say goodbye to quad channel memory.

Buy a cheap X79 motherboard , fix your computer. It either works or it doesn't! It does not get slower over time. Your operating system like windows might have been loaded with to much junk and it is limping Along.

No, I would not trade a 3960X, or a 3970X for a 6700K.


Get that 3960X up to 4.8Ghz and it competes with anything!

The last guy mentioned his GTX 970 is running so much faster with the 6700K, since he has gotten it.
First of all, the 4790K it replaced, was not even bottle necking that video card in the first place. So maybe it is like the sugar pill!

Anyways, a good upgrade would be a 5960X, maybe a 6850K, a 6900K, and a 6950X is a bit much extreme. But remember, you buy a 6950X now, and you replace it in 7 years lol.

The 3960X is 5 years old. It's held up well!

 

[RobCrezz]

Old thread...

 

[SubSt8]

Lol if you think replacing a 3960X "6" core Intel i7 with a I7 6700K then you are wrong, or not thinking correctly.

You will be losing 24 PCI-E lanes, you will also be losing 2 cores, and bye bye 4 logical processors too, and say goodbye to quad channel memory.

Buy a cheap X79 motherboard , fix your computer. It either works or it doesn't! It does not get slower over time. Your operating system like windows might have been loaded with to much junk and it is limping Along.

No, I would not trade a 3960X, or a 3970X for a 6700K.


Get that 3960X up to 4.8Ghz and it competes with anything!

The last guy mentioned his GTX 970 is running so much faster with the 6700K, since he has gotten it.
First of all, the 4790K it replaced, was not even bottle necking that video card in the first place. So maybe it is like the sugar pill!

Anyways, a good upgrade would be a 5960X, maybe a 6850K, a 6900K, and a 6950X is a bit much extreme. But remember, you buy a 6950X now, and you replace it in 7 years lol.

The 3960X is 5 years old. It's held up well!

Just a follow up for this thread being that a year has gone by and this guy necrod it, I am 100% happy with my switch to the 6700k. I was never really using the extra cores of the 3960x for gaming anyways and overall my PC gaming has been flawless and performing exactly like it should.

Hopefully this can help someone else out, if not, sorry for the necro.