Slight stutter in many games(fps drops to 58-59 when that happens)

[Gravelord Nito]

This may not be that big problem for some people, but I became obssesed with it, since I experience this in so many games. It's not in every game, but I rarely find stutter free game. Usually I need some twerking around with nvidia control panel to remove stutter or at least some stutter, and usually I can't at all. For example I had small stutter in Bastion and setting vsync on in nvidia control panel fixed the issue. It's maybe cause my gpu is more powerful than cpu, but I've searched internet and found many people with monster cpus, who have same problem. So could it be cause I have TV and not the monitor? Also I use some cheap VGA cable(about 10 euros). I rarely have fps issues, I can max a lot of games at 60 fps, but that slight stutter is real problem and became very annoying to me. Tnx in advance

AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz
GTX 970
Windows 8.1 64 bit
8gb ram

 

[cub_fanatic]

When you turned the vsync setting on in the Nvidia control panel for that game, did you do it only for that one game? Instead, try doing it in the global settings and it should apply the same vsync to all games.

 

[Gravelord Nito]

When you turned the vsync setting on in the Nvidia control panel for that game, did you do it only for that one game? Instead, try doing it in the global settings and it should apply the same vsync to all games.

I said it wrong then. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't. For example I fixed my stutter in Darksiders by turning on max pre-rendered frames to some number. For Deadly Premonition(broken game I know) I fixed issue by limiting fps to 53(weird I know). So I got an idea to limit fps to 59 in some games but it didn't help. It's really weird problem, sometimes occurs like every hour once, sometimes only few times in games, and sometimes it's often.

 

[cub_fanatic]

I said it wrong then. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't. For example I fixed my stutter in Darksiders by turning on max pre-rendered frames to some number. For Deadly Premonition(broken game I know) I fixed issue by limiting fps to 53(weird I know). So I got an idea to limit fps to 59 in some games but it didn't help. It's really weird problem, sometimes occurs like every hour once, sometimes only few times in games, and sometimes it's often.

This is something that can only really be fixed with spending more money. It is very hard to completely eliminate stuttering and tearing unless it is done in conjunction with the monitor itself which is what a Gsync monitor does. Even on a high end rig with a very good CPU, you will get the occasional frame drop or tear. Your first instinct, though, about the CPU is also true. The x4 is fairly low end and old now in terms of a modern gaming CPU and your GPU is pretty strong. While it isn't completely obsolete, it is the weakest link in your system assuming that 8GB of RAM is DDR3. With the prices of Gsync displays, it would probably be cheaper to upgrade the CPU and motherboard than buying a new monitor. You might want to try overclocking the Phenom first, though. See if you can get another 500-600 MHz or so on it if you don't want to spend anymore money right now. You could also try lowering the resolution to see if that gives you more consistent performance in the games you play. But, to completely get rid of any of these annoyances, you are going to have to upgrade eventually. I found out the same thing when I put a relatively beastly HD 7950 boost in my Q6600 PC a few years ago. The Core 2 Quad was good enough to run all my games in 1080p with decent FPS but I would get frame rate drop and stutter which was annoying since it seemed to happen during faster scenes like driving or running. Nothing I did with vsync, frame rate limiter or dropping the settings lower helped. Swapping it over to a new Ivy Bridge quad core system helped a ton, though.

Basically, try these:

[Free]
-overclock CPU as much as you can; make sure it is stable with some stress testing
-lower resolution
-lower detail settings and/or turn off things like AA and AF
-another thing I should have mentioned - take advantage of the free upgrade to Window 10. It won't give you a massive -boost in performance but it should decrease the system resources overhead a little vs Win 8.1.
-Check if there are any new drivers for the GTX 970 from the Nvidia website
-Disable the GeForce Experience app. It messes with your settings sometimes making it worse instead of better.
-Boost the clock of the 970 a little and give the VRAM a little boost as well like ~8 to 10% and make sure it is stable before leaving it there.

[Not Free]
-new CPU and motherboard
-new RAM if you are using DDR2
-Gsync (although CPU, RAM and a new motherboard should be enough to minimize it)

 

[Gravelord Nito]

I said it wrong then. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't. For example I fixed my stutter in Darksiders by turning on max pre-rendered frames to some number. For Deadly Premonition(broken game I know) I fixed issue by limiting fps to 53(weird I know). So I got an idea to limit fps to 59 in some games but it didn't help. It's really weird problem, sometimes occurs like every hour once, sometimes only few times in games, and sometimes it's often.

This is something that can only really be fixed with spending more money. It is very hard to completely eliminate stuttering and tearing unless it is done in conjunction with the monitor itself which is what a Gsync monitor does. Even on a high end rig with a very good CPU, you will get the occasional frame drop or tear. Your first instinct, though, about the CPU is also true. The x4 is fairly low end and old now in terms of a modern gaming CPU and your GPU is pretty strong. While it isn't completely obsolete, it is the weakest link in your system assuming that 8GB of RAM is DDR3. With the prices of Gsync displays, it would probably be cheaper to upgrade the CPU and motherboard than buying a new monitor. You might want to try overclocking the Phenom first, though. See if you can get another 500-600 MHz or so on it if you don't want to spend anymore money right now. You could also try lowering the resolution to see if that gives you more consistent performance in the games you play. But, to completely get rid of any of these annoyances, you are going to have to upgrade eventually. I found out the same thing when I put a relatively beastly HD 7950 boost in my Q6600 PC a few years ago. The Core 2 Quad was good enough to run all my games in 1080p with decent FPS but I would get frame rate drop and stutter which was annoying since it seemed to happen during faster scenes like driving or running. Nothing I did with vsync, frame rate limiter or dropping the settings lower helped. Swapping it over to a new Ivy Bridge quad core system helped a ton, though.

Basically, try these:

[Free]
-overclock CPU as much as you can; make sure it is stable with some stress testing
-lower resolution
-lower detail settings and/or turn off things like AA and AF
-another thing I should have mentioned - take advantage of the free upgrade to Window 10. It won't give you a massive -boost in performance but it should decrease the system resources overhead a little vs Win 8.1.
-Check if there are any new drivers for the GTX 970 from the Nvidia website
-Disable the GeForce Experience app. It messes with your settings sometimes making it worse instead of better.
-Boost the clock of the 970 a little and give the VRAM a little boost as well like ~8 to 10% and make sure it is stable before leaving it there.

[Not Free]
-new CPU and motherboard
-new RAM if you are using DDR2
-Gsync (although CPU, RAM and a new motherboard should be enough to minimize it)

Thanks for a long answer. Anyway, I am not having fps issues like that. I have 60 fps in a lot of games on max, neverthless than my cpu is not high end now I only have that one second stutter occassionally in a lot of games when fps drops to 59 and goes back to 60 or it goes to 61 and back to 60. I never have low fps, not even lower than 45. Sometimes it's rare sometimes often, and sometimes non-existent. I also don't play games from 2014+ much. I am talking abou stutter in games from 2010-2013. For example Shadow of Mordor for some reason works perfectly for me on ultra(textures on high since it requires 6gb of VRAM). Max Payne 3 also works great. BioShock Infinite too. Tomb Raider. I even tried Far Cry 4 it worked on 55+ fps on max. But for example Witcher 2 and Batman Arkham City stutter for me every two seconds, with 55-60 fps. It really depends on the game. In Lucius have that small stutter around the doors. Seems to me that stutter is often in cpu intensive games, though I don't get why some of them are intensive. Anyway to overclock my cpu that would also cost me money probably, since I think that my cooler is not good enough for that right now. What one would you recommend, to be the cheap and do the job? Also I am only afraid, that even after upgrading cpu I'll still have the issue, since I saw the guy with i5 4670k complaining. I am gonna use Riva Turner now and see if one of cores reaches 100% when I feel stutter.

 

[cub_fanatic]

I said it wrong then. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't. For example I fixed my stutter in Darksiders by turning on max pre-rendered frames to some number. For Deadly Premonition(broken game I know) I fixed issue by limiting fps to 53(weird I know). So I got an idea to limit fps to 59 in some games but it didn't help. It's really weird problem, sometimes occurs like every hour once, sometimes only few times in games, and sometimes it's often.

This is something that can only really be fixed with spending more money. It is very hard to completely eliminate stuttering and tearing unless it is done in conjunction with the monitor itself which is what a Gsync monitor does. Even on a high end rig with a very good CPU, you will get the occasional frame drop or tear. Your first instinct, though, about the CPU is also true. The x4 is fairly low end and old now in terms of a modern gaming CPU and your GPU is pretty strong. While it isn't completely obsolete, it is the weakest link in your system assuming that 8GB of RAM is DDR3. With the prices of Gsync displays, it would probably be cheaper to upgrade the CPU and motherboard than buying a new monitor. You might want to try overclocking the Phenom first, though. See if you can get another 500-600 MHz or so on it if you don't want to spend anymore money right now. You could also try lowering the resolution to see if that gives you more consistent performance in the games you play. But, to completely get rid of any of these annoyances, you are going to have to upgrade eventually. I found out the same thing when I put a relatively beastly HD 7950 boost in my Q6600 PC a few years ago. The Core 2 Quad was good enough to run all my games in 1080p with decent FPS but I would get frame rate drop and stutter which was annoying since it seemed to happen during faster scenes like driving or running. Nothing I did with vsync, frame rate limiter or dropping the settings lower helped. Swapping it over to a new Ivy Bridge quad core system helped a ton, though.

Basically, try these:

[Free]
-overclock CPU as much as you can; make sure it is stable with some stress testing
-lower resolution
-lower detail settings and/or turn off things like AA and AF
-another thing I should have mentioned - take advantage of the free upgrade to Window 10. It won't give you a massive -boost in performance but it should decrease the system resources overhead a little vs Win 8.1.
-Check if there are any new drivers for the GTX 970 from the Nvidia website
-Disable the GeForce Experience app. It messes with your settings sometimes making it worse instead of better.
-Boost the clock of the 970 a little and give the VRAM a little boost as well like ~8 to 10% and make sure it is stable before leaving it there.

[Not Free]
-new CPU and motherboard
-new RAM if you are using DDR2
-Gsync (although CPU, RAM and a new motherboard should be enough to minimize it)

Thanks for a long answer. Anyway, I am not having fps issues like that. I have 60 fps in a lot of games on max, neverthless than my cpu is not high end now I only have that one second stutter occassionally in a lot of games when fps drops to 59 and goes back to 60 or it goes to 61 and back to 60. I never have low fps, not even lower than 45. Sometimes it's rare sometimes often, and sometimes non-existent. I also don't play games from 2014+ much. I am talking abou stutter in games from 2010-2013. For example Shadow of Mordor for some reason works perfectly for me on ultra(textures on high since it requires 6gb of VRAM). Max Payne 3 also works great. BioShock Infinite too. Tomb Raider. I even tried Far Cry 4 it worked on 55+ fps on max. But for example Witcher 2 and Batman Arkham City stutter for me every two seconds, with 55-60 fps. It really depends on the game. In Lucius have that small stutter around the doors. Seems to me that stutter is often in cpu intensive games, though I don't get why some of them are intensive. Anyway to overclock my cpu that would also cost me money probably, since I think that my cooler is not good enough for that right now. What one would you recommend, to be the cheap and do the job? Also I am only afraid, that even after upgrading cpu I'll still have the issue, since I saw the guy with i5 4670k complaining. I am gonna use Riva Turner now and see if one of cores reaches 100% when I feel stutter.

Sounds like you have to mess around with the detail settings a little. You can still run these games in the highest detail just try lowering the Physx detail in Batman one notch and in Witcher, try playing around with the Depth of Field settings.

 

[Gravelord Nito]

I said it wrong then. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't. For example I fixed my stutter in Darksiders by turning on max pre-rendered frames to some number. For Deadly Premonition(broken game I know) I fixed issue by limiting fps to 53(weird I know). So I got an idea to limit fps to 59 in some games but it didn't help. It's really weird problem, sometimes occurs like every hour once, sometimes only few times in games, and sometimes it's often.

This is something that can only really be fixed with spending more money. It is very hard to completely eliminate stuttering and tearing unless it is done in conjunction with the monitor itself which is what a Gsync monitor does. Even on a high end rig with a very good CPU, you will get the occasional frame drop or tear. Your first instinct, though, about the CPU is also true. The x4 is fairly low end and old now in terms of a modern gaming CPU and your GPU is pretty strong. While it isn't completely obsolete, it is the weakest link in your system assuming that 8GB of RAM is DDR3. With the prices of Gsync displays, it would probably be cheaper to upgrade the CPU and motherboard than buying a new monitor. You might want to try overclocking the Phenom first, though. See if you can get another 500-600 MHz or so on it if you don't want to spend anymore money right now. You could also try lowering the resolution to see if that gives you more consistent performance in the games you play. But, to completely get rid of any of these annoyances, you are going to have to upgrade eventually. I found out the same thing when I put a relatively beastly HD 7950 boost in my Q6600 PC a few years ago. The Core 2 Quad was good enough to run all my games in 1080p with decent FPS but I would get frame rate drop and stutter which was annoying since it seemed to happen during faster scenes like driving or running. Nothing I did with vsync, frame rate limiter or dropping the settings lower helped. Swapping it over to a new Ivy Bridge quad core system helped a ton, though.

Basically, try these:

[Free]
-overclock CPU as much as you can; make sure it is stable with some stress testing
-lower resolution
-lower detail settings and/or turn off things like AA and AF
-another thing I should have mentioned - take advantage of the free upgrade to Window 10. It won't give you a massive -boost in performance but it should decrease the system resources overhead a little vs Win 8.1.
-Check if there are any new drivers for the GTX 970 from the Nvidia website
-Disable the GeForce Experience app. It messes with your settings sometimes making it worse instead of better.
-Boost the clock of the 970 a little and give the VRAM a little boost as well like ~8 to 10% and make sure it is stable before leaving it there.

[Not Free]
-new CPU and motherboard
-new RAM if you are using DDR2
-Gsync (although CPU, RAM and a new motherboard should be enough to minimize it)

Thanks for a long answer. Anyway, I am not having fps issues like that. I have 60 fps in a lot of games on max, neverthless than my cpu is not high end now I only have that one second stutter occassionally in a lot of games when fps drops to 59 and goes back to 60 or it goes to 61 and back to 60. I never have low fps, not even lower than 45. Sometimes it's rare sometimes often, and sometimes non-existent. I also don't play games from 2014+ much. I am talking abou stutter in games from 2010-2013. For example Shadow of Mordor for some reason works perfectly for me on ultra(textures on high since it requires 6gb of VRAM). Max Payne 3 also works great. BioShock Infinite too. Tomb Raider. I even tried Far Cry 4 it worked on 55+ fps on max. But for example Witcher 2 and Batman Arkham City stutter for me every two seconds, with 55-60 fps. It really depends on the game. In Lucius have that small stutter around the doors. Seems to me that stutter is often in cpu intensive games, though I don't get why some of them are intensive. Anyway to overclock my cpu that would also cost me money probably, since I think that my cooler is not good enough for that right now. What one would you recommend, to be the cheap and do the job? Also I am only afraid, that even after upgrading cpu I'll still have the issue, since I saw the guy with i5 4670k complaining. I am gonna use Riva Turner now and see if one of cores reaches 100% when I feel stutter.

Sounds like you have to mess around with the detail settings a little. You can still run these games in the highest detail just try lowering the Physx detail in Batman one notch and in Witcher, try playing around with the Depth of Field settings.

It never helps. I get same issue on low and ultra in Witcher 2. Well maybe on Ultra I get 55+ and on low I get 59+ still stutter on both. In Batman Arkham Knight every two seconds fps drops to 59 and goes back resulting in stutter every two seconds. What's the worst of it, if it's cpu bottleneck, cpu usage should be 100% but it's not near 100%. It's 60-70% for one core and 25-50% for rest. I think I am gonna give up on gaming for a year or two till I get new cpu. Those are games where stutter is that often, in other it's not. Just it drives me mad, that I rarely find stutter free game. And I never have long stutter, always small stutter, but in so many games, even 2D, that I think I am definitely out of option till I buy new cpu. I am gonna give up on gaming for next 1-2 years, and when I get new cpu I am gonna continue. Thanks for help anyway.