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"Repent decalod85!" said the Ticktockman. "Get Stuffed!" decalod85
replied. Then he added:

> Ooooops! Not very clear there, was I. My cousin got
> bit by the same horse that stomped on my brothers foot.
> The horse was named Moosa...
>

Moosa bites can be very nasty, you know.

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Billy Yank wrote:
> "Repent decalod85!" said the Ticktockman. "Get Stuffed!" decalod85
> replied. Then he added:
>
>
>>Ooooops! Not very clear there, was I. My cousin got
>>bit by the same horse that stomped on my brothers foot.
>>The horse was named Moosa...
>>
>
>
> Moosa bites can be very nasty, you know.

"Moosa bites... Moosa chewses..."

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In article <pan.2005.07.09.19.12.26.909815@REMOVEMEgmail.com>,
taneli.pirinen@REMOVEMEgmail.com says...

> >> If one of those things stands on your foot, you're grappled until it
> >> deigns to put its damn foot someplace else. I've got no question that
> >> an intelligent one could knock you down and stand on you even if you
> >> were human size.
> >
> > This could make for a very entertaining scene.
> > 1. Rogue tries to steal a horse.
> > 2. Horse turns out to be a paladin's mount.
> > 3. Rogue is knocked down and pinned while horse whinnies,
> > calling for it's master to come and collect the idiot
> > that tried to steal him!
>
> Why a rogue? Why not a hungry commoner/1 who's actually a child.
>
> And what's the common penalty for a horse thief? Yepp, gotta need
> some hemp rope.

Better get two lengths, one for yourself for when you lose the horse and
the other paladin abilities.


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Kevin Lowe wrote:

> I posted a snopes link to some piccies that allegedly show a mule owning
> a mountain lion. If you don't tell your players that the piccies' story
> is not confirmed to be true, I'm sure they'll buy attack horses.


Oh yeah. I saw that too! Different pics, though. The mule killed
the mountain lion. Kicked him, trampled him, and bit him to death.
Then dragged the lion's body around stomping on it for awhile in a
fit of rage brought on by excessive fear. While herbivores will
fly from danger at most opportunities, my guess is that the mule
was caught in a situation where it could not run.

My opinion. Medium, or Large four-legged herbivores can initiate
grapple, and can Rage.

I have seen cattle do significant damage to people as well when
caught in unexpected situations, bulls are downright aggressive,
and will bull rush, charge, trample, grapple (Saw a bull bite
someone and toss him once -- ditto that for a Buffalo), bite, and
gore.

Then there is the Stampede.

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Kevin Lowe wrote:

> This horse also liked biting people, and was quite cunning about finding
> opportunities to do so. He also figured out how to lie on his side and
> commando-crawl under an electric fence. Smart, nasty horse.
>

I have seen horses kick down fences, leap them, rub riders off on
fences, dig fences out, eat fences to weaken them, and herd other
stupider animals into barbed wire in order to break down the fence.

Horses are good communicators too, making calls by whinnying,
snorting, and neighing that can be heard for miles.

And it is very intimidating having a herd of horses charging you.
The ground shakes, even when they are hundreds of yards away.

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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:16:29 GMT, Kevin Lowe <me@private.net> carved
upon a tablet of ether:

> If one of those things stands on your foot, you're grappled until it
> deigns to put its damn foot someplace else. I've got no question that
> an intelligent one could knock you down and stand on you even if you
> were human size.

What's more, if it uses a front foot you'll be so close that you can't
get any leverage. About all you can do is knife the thing.


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On 9 Jul 2005 09:35:12 -0700, laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu carved upon
a tablet of ether:

> I'm just saying it seems really difficult to actually _do_, for horses.
> Are female horses even significantly weaker than males?

Usually a bit smaller, and thus weaker. The main thing is that
stallions are very seldom even interested in a mare that's not in
season, or nearly so, so the mares probably aren't putting up as much
of a fight as they could. Also, there's a persistence factor - past a
certain point it's probably easier to just let the randy sod have his
way and get back to eat grass than it is to keep running and kicking.


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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:47:43 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net>
carved upon a tablet of ether:

> Actually, while not the same animal...
>
> I believe ZEBRAS have a nasty bite attack, and there are documented
> cases of them killing people they have "grappled" by biting and not
> letting go.

Zebra stallions have 2" long canines, so I'm not surprised. Some horse
stallions have fangs too, but it's not common, and they usually aren't
as big.


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Kevin Lowe wrote:
> If horses don't have a bite attack, albeit one that's not really in the
> same league as that of a wolf or war dog, it's an oversight on the part
> of the designers.

People don't have a bite attack as such either, even though people
bite. Feel free to use a standard secondary natural weapon bite for
unarmed strike (large = 1d4, B/P/S for bite) damage, but only as a
seperate attack routine (riding horses can't kick/kick/bite).

Oh yea, horses chin-butt people too, on occaision, but as the
designers said, for most it's the kicks that count.

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In article <dhcAe.1136$oZ.1009@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
Dirk Collins <dirk.collins@Earthlink.Net> wrote:

> Kevin Lowe wrote:
>
> > I posted a snopes link to some piccies that allegedly show a mule owning
> > a mountain lion. If you don't tell your players that the piccies' story
> > is not confirmed to be true, I'm sure they'll buy attack horses.
>
>
> Oh yeah. I saw that too! Different pics, though. The mule killed
> the mountain lion. Kicked him, trampled him, and bit him to death.
> Then dragged the lion's body around stomping on it for awhile in a
> fit of rage brought on by excessive fear. While herbivores will
> fly from danger at most opportunities, my guess is that the mule
> was caught in a situation where it could not run.
>
> My opinion. Medium, or Large four-legged herbivores can initiate
> grapple, and can Rage.
>
> I have seen cattle do significant damage to people as well when
> caught in unexpected situations, bulls are downright aggressive,
> and will bull rush, charge, trample, grapple (Saw a bull bite
> someone and toss him once -- ditto that for a Buffalo), bite, and
> gore.
>
> Then there is the Stampede.

Compared to a human, any large animal is an absolute terror if it
decides to be.

I do feel obliged to point out, however, that being beaten up by a cow
or a paddock pony is not very fun or heroic. So while a neophyte
warrior might well, in real life, get stomped by an enraged steer I
don't think such a scene is necessarily a good idea in a DnD game. :)

That said, I vaguely recall that some mythical figures were supposed to
have wrestled bulls or something of the sort. So while a toe-to-toe
slugfest with cattle is probably too silly for most games, Grappling an
ox or a buffalo or something could be a fun test or challenge set by a
King (or whoever).

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Kevin Lowe wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> That said, I vaguely recall that some mythical figures were supposed to
> have wrestled bulls or something of the sort. <snip>

Gilgamesh and Enkidu vs. the Bull of Heaven
Hercules vs. the Cretan Bull


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Grapping horses...............

The whistle blows... Lets get ready to rumble... its Tapir wrestling
time.
On the left: Carlos Fandango, masked Malysian Tapirr, on the left:
Bernitto Swaligeddo, the striped african tapir........

I lke the idea. A lot.
 
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Murf wrote:
> Grapping horses...............
>
> The whistle blows... Lets get ready to rumble... its Tapir wrestling
> time.
> On the left: Carlos Fandango, masked Malysian Tapirr, on the left:
> Bernitto Swaligeddo, the striped african tapir........
>
> I lke the idea. A lot.

You should. It's a fact of life for horses. The basic family unit
revolves around the Stallion (male horse). Horses in the wild form
bands that are composed of the stallion, one or more mares
(females), and the foals (children), yearlings (older children).
Each stallion challenges another band stallion for a mate, steals
a mate from another band stallion, or finds an unnacompanied mate
in the wild (very, very, rare), and mates when the mare(s) are in
heat.

There is a lot of fighting going on with all these challenges and
stealing and so on. In addition the single Stallions form their
own band and practice developing their challenge skills taking the
time to raid family bands on a pretty much continual basis.

I saw kicking, biting, jumping, grappling, tumbling, high-speed
chases, leaping, and many other exotic manuevers.

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Jasin Zujovic wrote:
> In article <1120927269.131210.62410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> decalod85@comcast.net says...
>
>
>>>>1. Some way to grab your opponent (bite, claw, hand,
>>>>pincer...)
>>>
>>>One of those four things is something horses do.
>>
>>Yup. My cousin got one of those. Same horse that got
>>my brother. His name was Moosa (pronounced Moose-ahh)
>>and he was kind of a bad ass...
>
>
> A Moosa once bit your brother?
>
>
Moosa bites can be pretty nasty...
 
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Jasin Zujovic wrote:
> decalod85@comcast.net says...
>>>>1. Some way to grab your opponent (bite, claw, hand,
>>>>pincer...)
>>>One of those four things is something horses do.
>>Yup. My cousin got one of those. Same horse that got
>>my brother. His name was Moosa (pronounced Moose-ahh)
>>and he was kind of a bad ass...
> A Moosa once bit your brother?

Your brother bit a Moosa?
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>>>> Two grapple, I would think you would need two things...
>>>> 1. Some way to grab your opponent (bite, claw, hand,
>>>> pincer...)
>>> One of those four things is something horses do.

I've had horses lean against me, when I was between them and a stable wall. It felt as if
the hippo had sat on me.
I could easily see a smart horse (paladin mount or Animal Companion or awakened) chase
someone down, trip them, i.e. run over the sap, and just sit on the stunned PC. The PC
might get out next round, but probably not this one.
A pin is a pin even if ungraceful.
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shall do what needs to be done."
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