Socket 2066 longevity?

[enjoiskaterguy]

Can anyone give me a definite answer as to how long Intel plans to have their 2066 socket in the market?

If I'm going to invest in a new platform I want to make sure Intel isn't screwing over x299 early adopters.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

 

[jaslion]

Can anyone give me a definite answer as to how long Intel plans to have their 2066 socket in the market?

If I'm going to invest in a new platform I want to make sure Intel isn't screwing over x299 early adopters.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

They already screwed x299 adaptors with their seemingly rushed cpu's that run extremely hot. I honestly think they will go x499 soon (amd has x399 so thats not an option) since their coffee lake does not run on the older z170 an z270 board whilst being the same socket.

So yeah if you buy it now whatever is out for it now is all it's going to get.

 

[enjoiskaterguy]

Thank you for your response. I am very aware that they can and do run hot if you do not have adequete liquid cooling but I need a definitive answer as whether or not the 2066 socket will have any longevity for upgrades.

In other words, I am requesting any evidence from any video, blog, article or official statement from an Intel source regarding socket 2066 longevity.

 

[jaslion]

Thank you for your response. I am very aware that they can and do run hot if you do not have adequete liquid cooling but I need a definitive answer as whether or not the 2066 socket will have any longevity for upgrades.

In other words, I am requesting any evidence from any video, blog, article or official statement from an Intel source regarding socket 2066 longevity.

Well it's more about seeing the trends. They told us coffee lake cannot work on older boards due to needing different power delivery. Therefore if you get a x299 board now it means that the next gen cpu's won't work on it since they need a different power delivery.

 

[timbo80]

I have a question posed in another thread about whether to go X299 or something else and this tread makes me question it more. I currently have an X99 system on Haswell-e and it was a veritable nightmare to get a stable happy system. 3 board manufacturer's and 16 sticks of RAM later I did. For about a year, and now after the last windows update I had to pull 4 sticks of RAM out to get it to boot the other day. "I do not overclock, or use XMP". I went X99 a cpl years ago because I figured it would be relevant for at least 5 years without having to update but after reading about performance losses in applications I use after the vulnerability patch im feeling a bit burnt. I was going to just buy a 6900k broadwell-e chip to get a few more years out of her but now im not so sure. I started pricing X299 to get a newer chip and platform that wasent as hard hit after patching, but after all the recent crap going on im questioning my future.

 

[The Original Ralph]

I have a question posed in another thread about whether to go X299 or something else and this tread makes me question it more. I currently have an X99 system on Haswell-e and it was a veritable nightmare to get a stable happy system. 3 board manufacturer's and 16 sticks of RAM later I did. For about a year, and now after the last windows update I had to pull 4 sticks of RAM out to get it to boot the other day. "I do not overclock, or use XMP". I went X99 a cpl years ago because I figured it would be relevant for at least 5 years without having to update but after reading about performance losses in applications I use after the vulnerability patch im feeling a bit burnt. I was going to just buy a 6900k broadwell-e chip to get a few more years out of her but now im not so sure. I started pricing X299 to get a newer chip and platform that wasent as hard hit after patching, but after all the recent crap going on im questioning my future.

curious if you described the issues you went thru, in that other thread - if so, can you post a link?
I just started having stranve issues with my X99 system, after it ran stable for almost 2 years

to the OP - i've been eyeing a X299 system as well, but with the recent revelation re the Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities, i've decided to wait a bit till the dust from that has settled

 

[timbo80]

I have a question posed in another thread about whether to go X299 or something else and this tread makes me question it more. I currently have an X99 system on Haswell-e and it was a veritable nightmare to get a stable happy system. 3 board manufacturer's and 16 sticks of RAM later I did. For about a year, and now after the last windows update I had to pull 4 sticks of RAM out to get it to boot the other day. "I do not overclock, or use XMP". I went X99 a cpl years ago because I figured it would be relevant for at least 5 years without having to update but after reading about performance losses in applications I use after the vulnerability patch im feeling a bit burnt. I was going to just buy a 6900k broadwell-e chip to get a few more years out of her but now im not so sure. I started pricing X299 to get a newer chip and platform that wasent as hard hit after patching, but after all the recent crap going on im questioning my future.

curious if you described the issues you went thru, in that other thread - if so, can you post a link?
I just started having stranve issues with my X99 system, after it ran stable for almost 2 years

to the OP - i've been eyeing a X299 system as well, but with the recent revelation re the Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities, i've decided to wait a bit till the dust from that has settled

The recent thread I started yesterday does not touch on the issues with X99 I have been having other than the vulnerability patches/issues or possible issues. I have an older thread I will see if I can find from about a year ago when I had the first problems and now im having issues again with hardware under a year old. Ill see if I can dig up the older thread, but I can also describe in detail my X99 woes in a PM if you would like when i get to my workstation a bit later. I also do not want to hijack the OP's thread per se'.
Although, along with the OP, I am questioning the longevity or validity of X299. :/

 

[The Original Ralph]

post a link or your description in the thread i started on my X99 issues

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3622151/windows-cpu-issue.html

apologies to the OP

 

[jaslion]

I have a question posed in another thread about whether to go X299 or something else and this tread makes me question it more. I currently have an X99 system on Haswell-e and it was a veritable nightmare to get a stable happy system. 3 board manufacturer's and 16 sticks of RAM later I did. For about a year, and now after the last windows update I had to pull 4 sticks of RAM out to get it to boot the other day. "I do not overclock, or use XMP". I went X99 a cpl years ago because I figured it would be relevant for at least 5 years without having to update but after reading about performance losses in applications I use after the vulnerability patch im feeling a bit burnt. I was going to just buy a 6900k broadwell-e chip to get a few more years out of her but now im not so sure. I started pricing X299 to get a newer chip and platform that wasent as hard hit after patching, but after all the recent crap going on im questioning my future.

curious if you described the issues you went thru, in that other thread - if so, can you post a link?
I just started having stranve issues with my X99 system, after it ran stable for almost 2 years

to the OP - i've been eyeing a X299 system as well, but with the recent revelation re the Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities, i've decided to wait a bit till the dust from that has settled

The recent thread I started yesterday does not touch on the issues with X99 I have been having other than the vulnerability patches/issues or possible issues. I have an older thread I will see if I can find from about a year ago when I had the first problems and now im having issues again with hardware under a year old. Ill see if I can dig up the older thread, but I can also describe in detail my X99 woes in a PM if you would like when i get to my workstation a bit later. I also do not want to hijack the OP's thread per se'.
Although, along with the OP, I am questioning the longevity or validity of X299. :/

The x99 and x299 launch was really bumpy and riddeled with problems for most. Afterwards they became more stable but for a professional oriented platform it still leaves much to be desired.

 

[Gon Freecss]

Can anyone give me a definite answer as to how long Intel plans to have their 2066 socket in the market?

If I'm going to invest in a new platform I want to make sure Intel isn't screwing over x299 early adopters.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

They already screwed x299 adaptors with their seemingly rushed cpu's that run extremely hot. I honestly think they will go x499 soon (amd has x399 so thats not an option) since their coffee lake does not run on the older z170 an z270 board whilst being the same socket.

So yeah if you buy it now whatever is out for it now is all it's going to get.

Not really. Also, if you're truly an "Intel" advocate as your badge says, you would know that Intel skips a generation/number with their HEDT platform.

X58 -> X79 -> X99 -> X299.

So, either way, they're going X499.

Thank you for your response. I am very aware that they can and do run hot if you do not have adequete liquid cooling but I need a definitive answer as whether or not the 2066 socket will have any longevity for upgrades.

In other words, I am requesting any evidence from any video, blog, article or official statement from an Intel source regarding socket 2066 longevity.

Well it's more about seeing the trends. They told us coffee lake cannot work on older boards due to needing different power delivery. Therefore if you get a x299 board now it means that the next gen cpu's won't work on it since they need a different power delivery.

Now, this is a whole lot of bullsh*t. X299 will support Cascade Lake-X, which is coming in Q4 of this year. Also, they couldn't get actual Coffee Lake dies (six core dies) to work on Z170/Z270 properly. Higher-end Z170 and Z270 would be able to supply enough power, but the pin out changed slightly, and so they went with Z370. Also, the proper Z390 motherboard is coming out soon.

Past Cascade Lake-X, which is a refresh of Skylake-X on 14nm++, IMC improvements, errata fixes, with Optane DIMMs support, I don't see Intel supporting X299 further. Icelake-X will most likely go on X499.

 

[enjoiskaterguy]

Ill look into Cascade-X. Were these just rumors or actual press releases or roadmap leaks?

I just wish Intel would stick to a socket for at least 3 years. Seems like there corporate and engineers are all over the place and its making customers mad.

Why cant they be like AMD...at least they understand PC users who like flexible upgrade paths for their rigs. They are promising to make there AM4 socket to be in use through 2020.

 

[Gon Freecss]

Ill look into Cascade-X. Were these just rumors or actual press releases or roadmap leaks?

I just wish Intel would stick to a socket for at least 3 years. Seems like there corporate and engineers are all over the place and its making customers mad.

Why cant they be like AMD...at least they understand PC users who like flexible upgrade paths for their rigs. They are promising to make there AM4 socket to be in use through 2020.

They stuck with their mainstream boards for two years, and their HEDT boards for 3 years. Now, it shifted a little bit. X299 will most likely live two years, but maybe Intel will actually support Icelake-X on it, but I doubt that.

AMD will support their socket for 3 years. That's not all different from what Intel used to do.

 

[enjoiskaterguy]

Thanks for the roadmap pic and info.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/259904-intels-2018-roadmap-shows-new-high-end-cascade-lake-x-debuting-next-year

Here is some good insights into what's going on...soke good comments too.