Socket 370 Coppermine in Slot 1-system

[Guzi]

Hi! I'm new here at the THG forums, but I've been reading THG for quite some time. I would need some information regarding the use of a Socket 370 Coppermine and a Slot 1 -> Socket 370 adapter.

I've got a Abit BX6R2 Slot 1-motherboard running a Celeron 466 MHz with an Slot -> Socket adapter and I'm going to buy a Intel Pentium III Coppermine 866 MHz from a friend. Could I use the same adapter for the Coppermine or is it's pin-order different? Will the voltage be detected correctly too? I don't want to fry it.

Thanks in advance!

/Guzi

 

[mozzartusm]

Ive used Powerleaps upgrade, and it detected everything just fine!

 

[Crashman]

Coppermines work, but the 866 uses a 133MHz bus. That means you need PC133 RAM to work, and that your AGP slot will be overclocked. And that means that certain AGP cards will crash, while others won't.



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[Crashman]

I've owned the Powerleap upgrade, it SUX! The ONLY reason to EVER get the CRAPPY Powerleap adapter is if you happen to have an early Slot-1 board that doesn't support core voltages below 1.80v. Since his DOES, there's no need, EVER.

The Upgradeware adapter is far cheaper and far simpler. It doesn't have the crappy VRM of the Powerleap adapter, therefor it's cheaper to produce, using the far better VRM of the motherboard. And the only drawback is, you need a board that supports VRM 8.4 specifications to get below 1.80v.

But those are both Tualatin adapters. While Tualatin adapters work with Coppermines, he can get by with an even cheaper Coppermine adapter.

Even old VRM 8.2 (1.80v minimum) boards worked with Coppermine adapters: You simply had to get an adapter with voltage ID jumpers and set it manually to 1.80v. Or else do pin tricks at the socket to force 1.80v detection.

I picked up some old QDI Coppermine adapters from Computer Surplus Outlet for $4 each, with VID jumpers. I've been using them to put Coppermine Celerons on old LX chipset boards, using the 1.80v setting.

$4 certainly beats $20 for the Upgradeware or $60 for the inferior Powerleap.

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[mozzartusm]

Yea I know. Its a waste of money in my opinion. I got a little side tracked with this post. There is another one somehwere on this site in which I went into more detail about how I wouldnt go with the Powerleap again. In fact, the first thing I would do is max out the memory. I guess I was still thinking about what I already said on the other post. Almost forgot, I have one of those slot processors that you mentioned, and even though the upgrade was to a much faster processor, I still wasnt very happy with it. Thats the only celeron that I have ever owned, and I ended up e-baying it and putting the old P3 slot back in.

 

[Crashman]

You really need a 133MHz bus to get semi-modern performance from Slot-1 boards. And then you have the 133MHz bus considerations. But the Upgradeware Slot-T cost $20 and allows at least some people to go with a Tualatin Celeron 1100@1466MHz, putting them into XP1800+ performance territory.

Some people have even gotten the 1200 to 1600. And I've gotten the 1100 to 1650, but with RAM that couldn't take it.

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