Solid gaming build

Tyler Signus

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I am building a new desktop, i have $500 to work with. I have gotten a build from my research but am looking for advice hopefully from more experienced people. Is this a good build for the money and if not what parts should i get instead and why. Also is this build compatible.
Trying to build good gaming build.
Overclocking: no


CPU AMD FX-6300
MOBO ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti
RAM Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB
HDD Seagate Barracuda 250 GB
CASE Rosewill Dual Fans
PSU Antec VP-450
 
The mb you have chosen uses an older chip set and doesnt fully support an FX processor

This is a couple of $ more than $500 but its all good

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $507.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 19:32 EDT-0400

If you want the price under $500 then leave out the cpu cooler .
Personally I would leave it in . You might not want to OC now , but its very easy and safe to do using AMD's software .
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $508.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 19:48 EDT-0400
 


Not true - I run a FX-8320 on a GA-78LMT-USB3 motherboard and it runs pretty flawlessly. 78L motherboards will handle that CPU just fine.

On a $500 budget this is what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Directron)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Directron)
Total: $511.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 19:55 EDT-0400
 


The FX processors run in the older chip set boards [ obviously] but those older chip sets doesnt support all the power states of the FX processor so it wastes power and will run hotter .
And of course that ASUS board , and all others with a 760G chipset , lack strong VRM's and cooling and the hard drives are connected via SATA 300 standard meaning there is no chance of upgrading to a fast SSD .


Also a very bad idea to build a gaming pc with an intel dual core . Games are already specifying quad cores at a minimum , and the 6 core will give much better performance in online games
 
AMD build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($72.78 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X PRO3+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($171.00 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $498.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 21:53 EDT-0400
 


Uh... what? There's no proof that the chipset you run will have any affect on the CPU's heat dissipation. I would suggest checking your facts there.

And of course that ASUS board , and all others with a 760G chipset , lack strong VRM's and cooling and the hard drives are connected via SATA 300 standard meaning there is no chance of upgrading to a fast SSD .

Who still uses a 760G chipset? The 78L chipset runs all the latest connectivity features like USB 3.0, SATA 3GBs and SATA 6GBs, so you can in fact run a fast SSD on that motherboard. Should I post a screen cap of my CPU ID from my rig that's running a nearly identical configuration?

Also a very bad idea to build a gaming pc with an intel dual core . Games are already specifying quad cores at a minimum , and the 6 core will give much better performance in online games

Hmmm... weak six core based on a 2011 chipset vs. a strong dual core based on a 2014 chipset? I think I would take the newer cores vs. the old ones and the newer chipset vs. the older one. Plus you can always upgrade later.
 
For under $500, I would take the 860k in order to maximize the video card options.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($72.78 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($50.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($151.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $455.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 21:39 EDT-0400








This is a rebate heavy build, but it's probably the best gaming PC you could get for around $450 AR



For the record, I would take the i3 over the FX6300 every time.
 
I would recommend a build with an i3 as you can easily upgrade to an i5 or i7 later. This will eliminate bottlenecks caused by the cpu as Haswell is a lot better than FX architecture. Also there really is no upgrade path from the FX that will eliminate the bottlenecks. If you stick with intel you could upgrade CPU and the GPU later on without worrying about a bottleneck. Here's a good system:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rFyMYJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rFyMYJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($151.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($32.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $460.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 21:59 EDT-0400
 
You want him to put a R9 280 on a CX500 psu? Terrible recommendation.

I agree about the i3's upgrade path though.


Here is my i3 alternative if you want to spend this much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($151.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $507.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 22:03 EDT-0400
 


You don't need an H97 mobo. He's fine with the B85. The 280 is not that power-hungry. I admit that the CX line is not top-tier, but this isn't a power-hungry build.
 


Fact checking is as important as language comprehension .

The newer 9XX series chip sets have a different range of power states hard wired in . They drop the cpu clocks faster , ramp it up faster and have finer grained control of the cpu's thermal output .
In simple language AMD Cool'n'Quiet is improved in the later chip sets . In a board with a 9xx chipset the processor will , on average, run cooler and use less power


Here is the specification for the mb
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/specifications/
It has 6 SATA 300 ports and ZERO SATA 600 ports .
You can in fact run an SSD on that board , but its never going to run at more than 300 Mbits/s because the SATA ports will cap the speed . So , no point in upgrading to a high performance SSD . Ever .

As for the intel vz AMD argument . The intel might win in old games that cant multithread [ though this is usually just theoretical since the AMD can usually max out the monitors refresh rate anyway ] . In DX11/12 games that use all available threads the FX 6300 is a far better choice ..
 


As games advance and become more demanding, any FX will not be able to play it like an Intel. You have the upgradeablility with LGA1150, remember that.
 


Socket 1150 is already dead .
Intel are transitioning to socket 1151 .
So its no more upgradeable than AM3+ from this point forward .

And right now in terms of raw horsepower available the FX 6300 is about 60% faster than the best i3 .
When game software can use the parallelism of FX it smacks the puny intel i3 to the ground
 


LGA 1150 is not dead, you can upgrade to an i5 or and i7 or Broadwell. You can not upgrade to anything better on the FX. a 4790k will beat the 9590 no matter what.
 


You do understand that monitors refresh at 60 Hz , right?
And that 60 Hz is the same thing as 60 fps ?

In the link to GTA you provided the intel i3 makes 68 fps
and the FX 6350 makes 69 fps
These are essentially the processor options for the OP right now [ the FX 6350 is a very mild OC of an FX 6300 ]
In either case the person using the PC will be seeing 60 fps on their screen so in that regard its even

But single player and multiplayer are very different . There is a lot more load in online play . The i3 doesnt have the reserves of power .

Oh and BTW that "future processor" is about 6 weeks away , and there will be no future socket 1150 processors .
Socket 1150 is dead
 




"Sadly AMD's current FX series doesn't hold up well and the flagship parts struggle to compete with the likes of Intel's Core i3. It's shocking to find that the i3-4130 is around 20% faster than the FX-8370E in a game that heavily loads eight threads at 60% utilization or greater. The i3-4130 saw around 70-90% utilization across all its four threads." Quote from article.

You're missing the point. The i3 provides the same performance as an FX right now, but as the games become more and more demanding, the gap between the higher end FX and Intel will widen. AM3+ has been dead for a long time because AMD hasn't brought any CPU to the high end. If LGA 1150 is becoming dead, it'll be succeeded by Skylake. I'm trying to get the guy a PC that can last several generations.