Question Some doubts about proper operation of 5.25 half-height front panel for fan control ?

Jul 4, 2023
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Hello everyone reading, long text coming.

My knowledge about electronics is basic but i'll try to explain everything as clear as possible.
I bought a half-height 5.25 drive bay front panel to control 5 fans in my case. It's a Lamptron CU423. First of all, i checked the user manual. It states that the DC Input is: +12V (Standard power interface + 5557-2 D shape * 4 p r). And it also states that both inputs are needed for proper operation.

1) +12 V Standard power interface refers to Molex, is this correct?
2) About "5557-2 D shape * 4 p r" made me doubt a lot. Physically on the PCB it only has a Molex connector and an 8-pin +12 V EPS connector. I guess the D-shape refers to the shape some plastic pin covers have, is this also correct? I assume "4 p r" would stand for 4 power rail or something like that, and i assumed that it needed the EPS 8-pin cable.

I can post a link to the user manual if needed.

The PC and the case fans (currently connected to built-in case fan controller) work normally without the front panel. I connected everything needed to the front panel, then switched the computer on. I did it with the side door opened, inmediately i saw sparks and a small amount of white smoke coming out of the PSU connector where it supplied to the 8-pin EPS cable. Obviously cut electricity supply from the multi-socket adaptor very quickly.
After this, i checked for damage or misfunction on the PSU, cables, motherboard and the new fan controller. Luckily no damage to my components but the fan controller panel was dead.
I can assure that PSU and cables are correctly delivering the +12 V and GND routes, no short-circuit/reverse polarity.

I checked the fan controller panel, i realised that the 8-pin could be reversed. On the PCB it had printed the GND and +12 V text next to the 8-pin connector, but reversed, so the GND text would point to the 4 +12 V pins row, and the opposite, supposing it uses the standard EPS connector pinout.
I informed the seller this whole situation and asked to return the faulty one and then send me a new one. They told to return it, they would check it and if i was right they would send me a new one. I accepted, and yes, it was faulty according to them and sent me a new one.

Here comes the weirdest part of all this process, received the new one but before plugging it i checked the PCB, connectors, etc and same situation, 8-pin connector looks reversed too. I'm certain it's a new one, took pictures of the first panel and comparing with the spare one is another unit. Also, both of them were sealed, i'm pretty sure the seller is being honest and not sendind used/faulty units on purpose.

3) Is there any way to check polarity of pins, ICs and other complex PCB components?
I have a multimeter with basic functions to measure Ohms, Volts, etc and diode mode continuity, which may be useful in this case.

All this looks to me like a faulty design and lack of QA, releasing a bad batch, but i don't have enough knowledge and proof to confirm this.

I can't now but tomorrow i may be able to post pictures, that may be useful for all this hassle.
If someone reachs here and gives any help, clue or suggestion is more than welcome.
 
ive checked that manual, and right at first page:
PWR_IN1 and PWR_IN2: input power supply

Warning: Please be sure connecting PWR-IN1 and PWR-IN2 at the same time,then the CU423 can work normally



so ye, you do connect both, which is odd as its just 40watt fan controller
 

Lutfij

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IMHO, I'd have tried with connecting the fan controller to the PSU using the molex input. Lamptron did have an issue (as other brands) where they mislabeled some of the info in their manual/marketing material.

Does look like an 8pin PCIe was connected but it's not wired with all 8 pins(i.e, two are blank).
 
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@kerberos_20
Yes, i connected both. The Molex header in the PCB says +5 V GND GND NC. This probably only feeds the +5 V. The 8-pin is probably for the +12 V part.
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@Lutfij
I did the first try only with Molex but only worked the LEDs, the fan did not spin. Read above, probably due to Molex header having its +12 V pin disabled. It was when i feed it with both connectors it died.
The 8-pin PCI-e connector of my PSU just wont fit the square/D-shape pins. However the 8-pin EPS connector fits perfect.

Check this, using the clip as reference in the 8-pin CPU EPS connector, the upper pins row (5-8) are +12 V. The lower row (1-4) are GND. Then check the actual 8-pin header in the controller's PCB and the GND/+12 V text. It looks reversed. That's what bugs me.
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Misgar

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I've never heard of a fan controller needing an EPS 12V connector. Many ATX power supplies have only one EPS 12V cable and obviously that's needed for the motherboard.

The other type of 8-way cable found in most PSUs is a PCIe lead intended for GPUs. Many PSUs have more than one 6/8-way PCIe connectors for more powerful GPUs.

I think you mistook the 8-way connector on the fan controller, thinking it required an EPS CPU lead, instead of which you should have used a spare PCIe GPU lead.

Small wonder "magic smoke" came out if the fan controller with the wrong connection.

I just hope you haven't damaged the PSU.
 
Yes, we posted at the same time. I'm almost sure the 8-pin is needed. In the Molex header the +12 V pin is labeled as NC, "Not Connected" maybe?

Perfect @kerberos_20, that confirms it's an EPS connector.
okay i found your problem, your connector is REVERSED, dont power it up with EPS yet

here you can see power side is at bottom, your picture shows its at top, that means that piece of plastic was inserted in REVERSE, so pull it out, rotate it and push it back in
 
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I will reverse the plastic but before powering the controller i have one last question, would a 1 A fuse protect from reverse polarity? I have a modded PSU for testing and i can add that fuse to the cables powering the controller. This is just in case they have made more mistakes and any other component is also reversed.