Tim_159 :
Hi,
Looking into a requirement for a PC that is capable of running Revit 2017 (3D work) also for 2D MEP work too.
Not specced a high end PC for a while and reading conflicting reports on i7/Extreme/Xeons.
Will this suffice?
EVGA 750W (Modular) PSU - Low Noise
Intel i7 Broadwell 6850K Extreme (6 x 3.6 GHZ - Turbo 6 x 4.0 GHZ)
NVIDIA Quadro Pro P2000 - 5 GB - (PCI-E)
Asus X99-E (Intel X99) - 8xUSB3/2xUSB2
512GB Samsung PM961 M.2 SSD, Read 3000MB/s, Write 1150MB/s - Silent
Crucial 16GB 2133MHz (2x8GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR4)
Any advice gladly recieved.
Tim.
Tim,
The list for the proposed system is very smart especially the X99 motherboard and the Quadro P2000.
For a bit of perspective, here is the system I assembled last week for uses including Revit, which describes my approach:
HP z620_2 (2017) > Xeon E5-1680 v2 (8-core@ 4.1GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1866 ECC Reg / Quadro P2000 5GB / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB (Samsung SM951) + Intel 730 480GB + 2X Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB / ASUS Essence STX PCIe sound card / 825W PSU / Windows 7 Prof.’l 64-bit > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) / Logitech z2300 2.1 Sound
[Passmark Rating = 6166 / CPU rating =
16934 / 2D =
820 / 3D=
8849 / Mem =
2991 / Disk =
13794] 4.24.17 Single Thread Mark =
2252
Total cost was about $1,900 using new: CPU, case/chassis, GPU, and used: motherboard, disks (from HP z620_1) and RAM
Revit is an interesting program in the context of computer performance analysis in that it is one of the most demanding of high performance in every subsystem: the CPU can utilize multiple cores over dual processors, the database / analysis/simulation components requires a high calculation density, but also needs to have the highest single-thread performance possible and a high 3D GPU performance for the high density 3D modeling, But that isn't all, the system needs 64GB of RAM to minimize disk swaps and a fast disk.
Some of the these attributes conflict as an 8-core CPU will typically have a lower top clock speed. That is the reason I choose to assemble a new HP z620 using a new Xeon E5-1680 v2, as that particular 8- core has an unlocked multiplier and is rated to overclock to 4.3GHz. Using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, I set all 8-cores at 4.1Ghz and it will run on all cores it's running 3.5GHz and some users more adventurous than I run them at 4.4 and even 4.6GHz.
Accordingly, for the proposed system, consider:
1. Changing the CPU to i7-6900K 8-core @ 3.2/4.0GHz(= + 2 cores / 4 threads) The i7-6850K : The Passmark CPU average =
14374 and average single thread mark =
2158. For the i7-6900K: CPU average =
17896 and single-thread is
2205
2. Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (= server-level CFM and rated to be very quiet)
3. ASUS X99-Deluxe II (This motherboard has 9 of the top 14 CPU performance ratings for the i7-6900K in Passmark Performance Test. It is No. 1: CPU Mark =
22966)( For the i7-6850K, the X99 Deluxe II is No. 1 (CPU= 17853)
4. Configure the RAM to 4X 8GB so that it may be increased to 64GB without discarding modules. If the projects might include any of a larger scale, consider starting with 64GB. I'm working on a larger building project with a Sketchup concept model at 163MB and my previous system (HP z420 / Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core 3.7 /4.0GHz) /
32GB / Quadro K4200) could not run renderings- they needed
38GB of RAM during setup.
5. Thermaltake - Suppressor F51 ATX Mid Tower Case (version without window) - rated to be very quiet
Performance and expandability should be very good and the additional cores will significantly improve CPU rendering.
I've been using the Quadro P2000 about a week and it's quite amazing- and an astounding value. the 3D performance in Passmark is better than Quadro M5000, Quadro K6000, GTX 780 Ti , and GTX 1060. I might add a second one to have the 10GB memory and CUDA cores. A pair is supposed to run at near P5000 rates.
Interesting project.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
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