SSD Prices Falling Faster Than HDD Prices

[acerace]

you say it like a normal person who is new to tech.

lets address cost of item to time used.

an ssd, a good one, is insured for 5 years. you get at least that much time with it where you would get a more or less free replacement if it fails, and ssds already fail less than hdds, and they also dont have mechanical parts that can ware out randomly.

a good one, even sata2 saturates/comes close to saturation the read speed, maybe not the write.
the main difference between hdd and ssd is the io operations, and seek time, seek probably wont get to much better over the next 5-10 years, io will probably jump to about 2-500000 for consumer grade in the same time.

my point being, a good ssd right now would last most people years, and read speed wise, hdds most likely wont touch it but may be close. and the seek time adds to how smooth your pc experience is.

another point is ssds dont die from reads, they die from writes. unless that kid is downloading over 7tb a day of porn on a 80gb drive, he isnt going to ware it out in a month.

and i have to also say, that if you use something, lets say dialup, and than you get a cable modem, and you are forced to go back to dialup, you have the right to call it crap unless its a cable modem. a friend did this, so it was the example, and i have to believe that going from a hdd to a ssd is similar in end results, where you cant go back to a hdd boot.

You've got the point there. But, sadly, just minority knows the difference between SSD and HDD. Like they said, average Joe don't know and not even care about that. Browsing and Office in their mind when using computers.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]acerace[/nom]You've got the point there. But, sadly, just minority knows the difference between SSD and HDD. Like they said, average Joe don't know and not even care about that. Browsing and Office in their mind when using computers.[/citation]

and that iw what a ssd would be best for. they dont need a 1tb+ space for browsing or office work, but a 60gb ssd would solve most if not all their needs, and even at 100$ would still be a worth while investment.

in stores, they should really show off 3 demographics, gamer (ssd+game and ssd+hdd with game on it) and have a hdd boot and a ssd boot with the 2 options i mentioned, a laptop with ssd and with hdd boot, and office computer with the same.

6pcs and you can actually see and feel the difference.

once people know that, and know that even a 40gb boot would bost over all performance be a significant amount, i dont think a single person would want a hdd boot if they have a choice anymore.

 

[AMD_pitbull]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]you say it like a normal person who is new to tech. lets address cost of item to time used. an ssd, a good one, is insured for 5 years. you get at least that much time with it where you would get a more or less free replacement if it fails, and ssds already fail less than hdds, and they also dont have mechanical parts that can ware out randomly. a good one, even sata2 saturates/comes close to saturation the read speed, maybe not the write. the main difference between hdd and ssd is the io operations, and seek time, seek probably wont get to much better over the next 5-10 years, io will probably jump to about 2-500000 for consumer grade in the same time. my point being, a good ssd right now would last most people years, and read speed wise, hdds most likely wont touch it but may be close. and the seek time adds to how smooth your pc experience is. another point is ssds dont die from reads, they die from writes. unless that kid is downloading over 7tb a day of porn on a 80gb drive, he isnt going to ware it out in a month. and i have to also say, that if you use something, lets say dialup, and than you get a cable modem, and you are forced to go back to dialup, you have the right to call it crap unless its a cable modem. a friend did this, so it was the example, and i have to believe that going from a hdd to a ssd is similar in end results, where you cant go back to a hdd boot.[/citation]
Funny, you say it's said like a person new to tech, yet, you address a "point" which I don't bring up. 70tb isn't that much if you're constantly download, deleting, and downloading music, movies, games. How big is a BR movie? A "high" quality movie? The drive's insured? How is the experience the average person is gonna get with regards to dealing with customer service? What about the guy that needs his presentation tomorrow for work and the SSD bricks? People don't look at the big picture with things, as, apparently you missed with regards to my points, I'm sorry that I was not so direct. For future reference, when you "save" something to a drive, you're writing. It's creating or altering a file which puts data on the disk. Hence, when I used "save" in my last post, just read "write" in it's place.
And not once did I say the speed isn't nice, but, you look at the comparison of the new Intel chips. The 3930k and 3960k are beasts with regards to speed and performance. Ivy Bridge will be too. But, how many people out there will take a dual core in a heartbeat because it's cheaper? It's the way the world works. They want cheap. The number one thing I hear people saying with regards to computers is the harddrive size. "Oh, the guy said it has 750gb of memory to save stuff," for an example. They don't care as much about speed as size. Anyone even half decent with tech can use TRIM and other little things to help extend a SSD to probably long past 5 years, closer to 10+, but, the average person just doesn't care. Try to keep that in mind, but, greatly appreciate your input, as well as your patronizing comments

Cheers.

 

[eddieroolz]

Another "obviously, duh" finding. It's like the hybrids - sure, they were very expensive 10 years ago and now they aren't so expensive, but compared to a regular car still more expneisev.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]AMD_pitbull[/nom]Funny, you say it's said like a person new to tech, yet, you address a "point" which I don't bring up. 70tb isn't that much if you're constantly download, deleting, and downloading music, movies, games. How big is a BR movie? A "high" quality movie? The drive's insured? How is the experience the average person is gonna get with regards to dealing with customer service? What about the guy that needs his presentation tomorrow for work and the SSD bricks? People don't look at the big picture with things, as, apparently you missed with regards to my points, I'm sorry that I was not so direct. For future reference, when you "save" something to a drive, you're writing. It's creating or altering a file which puts data on the disk. Hence, when I used "save" in my last post, just read "write" in it's place. And not once did I say the speed isn't nice, but, you look at the comparison of the new Intel chips. The 3930k and 3960k are beasts with regards to speed and performance. Ivy Bridge will be too. But, how many people out there will take a dual core in a heartbeat because it's cheaper? It's the way the world works. They want cheap. The number one thing I hear people saying with regards to computers is the harddrive size. "Oh, the guy said it has 750gb of memory to save stuff," for an example. They don't care as much about speed as size. Anyone even half decent with tech can use TRIM and other little things to help extend a SSD to probably long past 5 years, closer to 10+, but, the average person just doesn't care. Try to keep that in mind, but, greatly appreciate your input, as well as your patronizing comments Cheers.[/citation]

on an 80gb drive, lets assume 20gb for windows comes to about 300tb if the drive is a 5000 write, and 150 if its 2500, i dont think ssds come in less than that. even when i was heavily downloading stuff, i never went much over 300gb a month, i cant see many people downloading more than i did ligitamatly or illegitimately.

a bluray is about 25gb to 50gb, and a movie on a bluray at 720p can be compressed down to about 4gb without much quality loss, and 1080p is about 8gb without much quality loss.

The drive's insured? - most are for years, so long as the drive doenst die because of heavy use and ware out

How is the experience the average person is gonna get with regards to dealing with customer service? - buy it from a name and not the cheapest you can find, and usually customer service is decent, some times it isnt even in india.

What about the guy that needs his presentation tomorrow for work and the SSD bricks? - this person just learned a hard lesson on BACK CRITICAL THINGS UP, the hdd has a far more likely chance to die than an ssd, and the harddrive recovery even at fastest wont have it by tomorrow.

i am really bad at getting across what i want to say, and the way i want it to be said through typing, and the fact i cant put my usually disclaimers in front of messages on toms doesn't help either. im not saying you are new to tech, im saying the way you are explaining it is that way. i also dont believe in babying people who dont know about tech, i learned everything i know about computers because im self tought and learned from everything i screwed up on. if someone wants to buy a computer form wallmart, something they will most likely use 2 hours a day for the life of the computer, and not learn anything about it, i honestly believe they deserve to be screwed. as of right now, there is no excuse for not having basic computer knowledge if you use if they have been part of your life for more than a few years

 

[schmich]

[citation][nom]dickcheney[/nom]The gains in Windows general snappiness are worth it. I never looked back and never would.[/citation]
They don't give a single FPS increase for games. Just get more RAM and remove the page file, then dump all your money on CPU/GPU.