Question SSD suggestions ?

[bedouinbro]

Copying between the C and D partitions....both on the same SSD, will be "faster" than to and from the HDD.
But still not the full 450-550 MB/s you might see if you were copying between 2 physical drives.
Your C and D being on the same drive...that physical drive is trying to do both things at once, read and write.

What you see is absolutely normal for operations like this, with a SATA SSD and HDD.

Your drive being a fake is a whole other issue.
But if I were able to give you one of my known genuine Samsung SATA SSDs, you'd see exactly the same numbers.

so my current option is to replace it and buy a genuine Transcend SSD230S, found some benchmarks online
https://www.vmodtech.com/th/article/transcend-ssd230s-256gb-review/page/4
https://www.tech-critter.com/review-transcend-ssd230s/
which would be preferable ?

 

[USAFRet]

which would be preferable ?

Well, my preference is Samsung/Crucial/WD/SanDisk, in that order.

But if Transcend is what you can get in your market...go for it.

 

[bedouinbro]

Well, my preference is Samsung/Crucial/WD/SanDisk, in that order.

But if Transcend is what you can get in your market...go for it.

got the 230s, and it outperforms slightly ! and got 5-year warranty, it will probably outlive me lmao

 

[MWink64]

Label oddities aside, is anyone else impressed by the amount of effort somebody made to try and clone the Samsung casing? Until I compared it to a real one side by side, I thought it looked legit. However, upon comparison, the indentation for the screw is much wider on the fake one. Also, the SATA connector is completely different.

However, the label is a dead giveaway. In addition the the punctuation issues, many of the letters are partially cut off, the serial number barcode is too wide, the orange EVO and line are wrong, and some of the logos aren't right (like the Serial ATA one).

 

[bedouinbro]

Label oddities aside, is anyone else impressed by the amount of effort somebody made to try and clone the Samsung casing? Until I compared it to a real one side by side, I thought it looked legit. However, upon comparison, the indentation for the screw is much wider on the fake one. Also, the SATA connector is completely different.

However, the label is a dead giveaway. In addition the the punctuation issues, many of the letters are partially cut off, the serial number barcode is too wide, the orange EVO and line are wrong, and some of the logos aren't right (like the Serial ATA one).

my best guess is they are meant to be used in laptops or prebuilt systems where people don't really check the individual software/hardware compatibility/ or if its genuine or where people doesnt really care about if its genuine or not- to check it ! .and maybe these pcbs/nand flash/ are recycled from other defective SSD or just throw in a few cheap ones together, and make a brand new one. cuts the manufacturing/assembling costs but sells at a higher price but it does bother me how verified import/export companies could trade these things, even on websites like Amazon!

 

[bedouinbro]

btw this 230s is running quite hot, should i be concerned?

 

[Satan-IR]

This is what the the manufacturer website says about safe temps here. This is your drive right?

Operating Environment​
Operating Temperature	Temperature 0°C (32°F) ~ 70°C (158°F)
Operating Voltage	5V±5%

That's a SATA drive and they don't tend to get as hot as M.2 drives under load and that's not 'quite hot'. Drive temps depend on general air flow inside the case. Improve air flow and the drive temps would lower a few degrees.

Also HDSentinel marking it as 'Yellow temperature limit' maybe because it reached near 50C which might be set in the apps database as a borderline. That might be because 50C is/was considered borderline temp for hard disks. They tend to get more vulnerable if they work at or above 50C for long periods.

Decent drives have over-temp protection builtin so if the drive get too hot under heavy work load it throttles speed down to lower temps.

Anyway I wouldn't worry about it reaching 47C for a few moments but, in general, if you can improve air flow and get the average to around 37-38C that's be better in the long run.

 

[jonny0808]

So recently I bought a Samsung 870 EVO 250 gb sata ssd, turns out that it's a fake one! also, the Samsung Magician software doesn't detect it, which makes it a counterfeit product.
the model number matches, but the serial numbers aren't matching also the benchmark appears to be inaccurate, checked some other websites,

https://www.fonearena.com/blog/331480/samsung-870-evo-ssd-review.html
now I have contacted the shop from where I bought it, so if it's possible to get replacements or money back, which would be advisable? since these products come in a sealed package, what are my chances of getting a genuine product or getting a fake one again? here's the shop I bought it from,
https://computersource.com.bd/pc-components/storage/ssd

in case of getting money back or a different SSD, which sata ssd will you recommend in terms of getting similar performance as I would get if I had bought an original 870 EVO, keeping in mind that the price-to-performance ratio, I really need the performance btw !!
also another shop link, https://www.ryans.com/category/internal-ssd

1st of all you should check on samsung website https://www.samsung.com/us/support/register-product/ and it's possible to get replacements or money back, which would be advisable? (yes) but 1st check on manufacturer website if it's legit product.

 

[bedouinbro]

This is what the the manufacturer website says about safe temps here. This is your drive right?

Operating Environment​
Operating Temperature	Temperature 0°C (32°F) ~ 70°C (158°F)
Operating Voltage	5V±5%

That's a SATA drive and they don't tend to get as hot as M.2 drives under load and that's not 'quite hot'. Drive temps depend on general air flow inside the case. Improve air flow and the drive temps would lower a few degrees.

Also HDSentinel marking it as 'Yellow temperature limit' maybe because it reached near 50C which might be set in the apps database as a borderline. That might be because 50C is/was considered borderline temp for hard disks. They tend to get more vulnerable if they work at or above 50C for long periods.

Decent drives have over-temp protection builtin so if the drive get too hot under heavy work load it throttles speed down to lower temps.

Anyway I wouldn't worry about it reaching 47C for a few moments but, in general, if you can improve air flow and get the average to around 37-38C that's be better in the long run.

is this normal for ssd ? 2% health loss for a month of use ?

 

[bedouinbro]

3% health loss over a month of use, Transcend's 230S 256gb using as a boot drive for windows 10
https://www.transcend-info.com/Products/No-756
is this normal ? or i got a defective one ?