SSD vs HDD for recording high quality video?

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Hi, I'm looking to buy a separate drive only to record 1080p video with. I was searching around google and see a few posts about HDDs being better than SSDs for recording due to the idea that SSDs don't have good/much better sequential write speeds. That does not make sense to me as they are advertised and benched much higher. Is this a concept with some of the first few generations of SSDs that had much lower speeds or is this a true fact still? What about 10k RPM drives vs SSDs?
 
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Big necro, but I just wanted to say for anyone who ended up here from Google searches... the original poster is completely wrong.

I record gameplay to a dedicated, OLD 500 GB 7200 RPM drive which can write ~110 MB/s. With dxtory using lagarith codec or Fraps (which makes high quality but notoriously large files), I can record 1080p at *60 FPS* with zero frame stutter or frame drops, assuming I can maintain 60 FPS or above in the game itself.

Typical recording at 1080p 30 fps does NOT use 120 MB/s+. At 30 FPS for dxtory (Lagarith) and Fraps, the write speed is closer to ONE THIRD to one half of that value. Of course, this is with using lossless codecs, not sure why the original poster would try to record gameplay footage fully...
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Also SSD not that awasome in writing, it had great response in reading data but not at writing it... (at least if u compare it with the $/Gb from normal HDD)

For videos size is the matter even simple 3 min video could sized up to 500mb it will eat up the SSD space very quickly (depend the sound channel, color deph, etc)

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If the use of SSD just for the sake of recording but not store it, it can be justify...

I never tried before but, if we increase the size of Memory (ram) as temporary buffer before writing it to disk, aren't those serve the same idea but cheaper to implement..?
 
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That would be the point of the second drive. Only recording.
Price is not really a concern up to within reason, I know the argument on $ is made obviously to go for the HDDs but in terms of performance is it true that HDDs perform the same/better for writing compared to new gen SSDs?
 
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What's with all the random forum posts i see around google stating the SDDs fail for recording then? False information or just older generation issues?
 
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First gen SSD had many firmware issue, (right now it much better)

SSD performance will drop in line with free space it had, usually by clearing the space will return the performance but TRIM need time to work...
(U need to keep the size of the data in check, it kindda hard when u recording and U still need adequeted sized SSD)

by recording it means it will eat up the lifetime of ssd (since ssd depends on how much data writen to it, constan writing huge recorded data is stressing the ssd)

That the general idea, I think u already knew that. but I'll try look up with the post u mentioned.... (Other than not big enough, I can't think of why it will fails)

As my question about using memory as buffer before writing it to disk, is anyone can confirm if it could increase the performance since memory is fast?

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I'll let the other verify this problems. since as much i work with ssd and videos only just editing and converting but not directly recoding it..

(the recording i ever do just recording for CCTV security system where size will gone very fast SSD is not an option)
 
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Writting to an SSD is now much faster than an HDD but you will not see any difference in speed because you can only write as fast as you can send the HD stream. Since both HDD & SSD are fast enough to hangle this stream neither one will have an advantage.

SSD will have a huge advantage in system responsiveness and playback esp when you jump around in the video
 
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In terms of noticing lag while recording, an SSD would be the above all HDDs though, correct? Or are you basically saying no difference at all between a HD and SSD? I understand that the output quality will not change. But i'm talking about performance while recording
 
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Writting to an SSD is now much faster than an HDD but you will not see any difference in speed because you can only write as fast as you can send the HD stream. Since both HDD & SSD are fast enough to hangle this stream neither one will have an advantage.
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the HD will keep up. if you are having lag while recording, is the same disk being shared with the OS or software?
 
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well, if you're working with it, then RAMdisk, gigs are cheap, amirite?
 
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s looniam stated, use a dedicated HDD, NOT the same HDD that OS, and Programs and games are on.

As to Ramdisk, yes they are about 10 times faster than an SSD it is also about 6 to 7 Xs more expensive as an SSD (Gigs/$$$ ie around 50 Bucks for 8 gigs vs $100 for 128 gigs). Then there is size, He did not mention typical size of a recording, but 1080P blue ray file can be anywheres from about 13 gigs -> 40 gigs per Hr and a half. Posibliy would need to disable autosave as that would inturn write to disk (at HDD speed).
Have Played around with Ramdisk (upto 8 gig size).
 
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Depends where you bought it, read the fine print or ask customer service where you are buying it from. if you can't be bothered to read.

Typically yes minus a fee such as 15% for working but didn't fit your needs. Exchanges for not-working usually are free.

Usually it's Software that can't be returned (but you may work with the software vendor for potential refund)
 
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I always thought that you couldn't return hard drives because you're in a way physically changing the product. Was looking under the warranty information and couldn't find it anywhere, but yes there is a return policy for it (was somewhat separate information). I'll purchase it and give it a go.
 
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So I ended up getting a WD black 1TB. It just doesn't work. Not a chance. 1080p will screw me pretty badly in-game. The recording turns out great, but it bogs me down incredibly much. What the heck does it take?
 
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As in, it chops up badly. The recording is flawless, but in-game is not very enjoyable. I'm settling for 720p, but I was expecting 1080p with all the information being put out on the net like "Hard drive will be fine". It's clearly not. I've tried afterburner, fraps, dxtory. None work with 1080p unless you make the quality way too horrible. Unless I'm doing something extremely wrong, I wouldn't know what though.
 
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i'll put it another way, what are you doing while recording? why would you think afterburner, fraps, or dxtory would help?
if you are running a buttload of programs while recording, it not a hard drive issue you have but a RAM/cpu problem.
 
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I'm recording in-game footage. That is it. When recording, it chops up badly, because the hard drive can NOT keep up with 1080p at good quality. It just can't. It's not a CPU/RAM problem and has nothing to do with my rig unless I'm doing something extremely wrong when recording or people actually record to drives like this and are able to stand playing games like that. It's miserable. I've tried different games, different recording software, it makes no difference. 720p works across the board. 1080p is not bearable for any decent gamer unless you're watching replays to record. At least not in my situation.
 
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ah, if your game play is being laggy or choppy, that has nothing to do with the hard drive. you can see for yourself by looking at the load on your cpu; if it is hitting 100% the whole time, there is the problem. also check the ram usage.
 
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