News Star Citizen Now Requires AVX Support, Killing off Intel Pentium Platforms

[randomizer]

Also people who kick started it got 8 years out of the game before the change so that is not bad.

8 years ago we didn't even have the Hanger Module. The first vaguely meaningful release was Arena Commander in 2014, which is barely even a tech demo. Late 2015 was the first release of the essentially unplayable persistent universe.

 

[dmoros78v]

Star citizen was never going to be playable with any of those CPUs anyhow. Not really.

I still own a Gaming PC from 10 years ago... MSI x58 Platinum SLI, with a Core i7 980x OC to 4.0 GHz, I upgraded it a few years ago to 24 GB Triple channel DDR3 1600 Mhz and a RTX 2060 Super, and you would be amazed how it can still run everything I throw at it at 1440p, even Red Dead Redemption 2 runs 50-60 FPS at 1440p at the Digital Foundry recommended settings, The latest Doom? no problem, even Flight Simulator 2020 runs at 40 fps on average...

So, your assertion is not true, for first gen Core i7 Processors still are very capable.

 

[dmoros78v]

Or hardware. My Windows Mixed Reality headset required AVX instruction support. Dipping my toe into VR was the deciding factor for upgrading my system. My old, first gen I5 didn't support AVX, but could still run everything else I wanted it to well enough for my needs.

-Wolf sends

I hear you!... I still own a x58 platform with a Core i7 980x @ 4.0 Ghz with 24 GB DDR3 in tripple channel and a SATA SSD that still runs perfectly everything I throw at it (except for these new games that now are requiring AVX for only god know what...)

 

[randomizer]

I also own an x58 system, but it's got a stock i7 920 so calling it "very capable" would be a bit of an embellishment. I do still play modern games on this system, I'm just not expecting a constant 60FPS.

 

[dmoros78v]

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The majority of those processors are so outdated that I would be questioning OS and driver support on Windows 10 long before worrying about SC. Anything without AVX today is so low level that those chips are being used for IOT level stuff, certainly not gaming rigs. AVX extensions are so established that I am sure that the user base on a whole is going to be much happier utilizing them than hold the entire ecosystem back to maintain the few individuals trying to run ancient/ultra low end hardware. Any online game that runs long enough will face the fact that if they continue development hardware obsolescence will become a sore spot for a given number of players no matter what.

Wrong, I still have an x58 MoBo with a Core i7 980x (bough it used on ebay for 80 bucks three years ago, first I had a i7 920 in that MB) with 24 GB DDR in Triple Channel with a RTX 2060 Super... Windows has embedded all the drivers for the Motherboard/CPU I only need to install the video card drivers and it runs everything I throw at it. Doom Eternal, Forza Motorsport 7, Flight Simulator 2020 (High at 40 fps average), Red Dead Redemption 2 (Digital Foundry settings 1440p at 50-60 fps or 4k at 30 fps)... This processors are way more powerful that what is inside a PS4 or a Xbox One so they can run still every game perfectly, maybe now with next gen consoled on the horizon this will change of course but not today, today my trusty i7 980x is still serving me well.

 

[dmoros78v]

I also own an x58 system, but it's got a stock i7 920 so calling it "very capable" would be a bit of an embellishment. I do still play modern games on this system, I'm just not expecting a constant 60FPS.

Thats how my PC started 11 years ago, i7 920 at stock 6 GB DDR3, now that MoBo has an i7 980x OC to 4.0 GHz (bought it used on ebay for 80 bucks three years ago) and 24 GB RAM... I'm still amazed how well it runs things today 11 years after I assembled it... I guess I'm too fond of this machine and dont want to let it go 😛

 

[jasonf2]

Thats how my PC started 11 years ago, i7 920 at stock 6 GB DDR3, now that MoBo has an i7 980x OC to 4.0 GHz (bought it used on ebay for 80 bucks three years ago) and 24 GB RAM... I'm still amazed how well it runs things today 11 years after I assembled it... I guess I'm too fond of this machine and dont want to let it go 😛

In my opinion the Nehalem chips marked the point where further CPU generational differences in normal day to day computing started to become very difficult to perceive for the current generation. While the computational power of high end processors today far outpower something like a I7-920 the real world feel of those machines going forward hasn't changed much. Every major architecture upgrade leading up to the early pentiums from 8088(6) and up had a perceivable performance difference. Intel had stalled out though from about the P3-P4 Generation all of the way to the first core era. Nehalem brought a Pentium like jump though. I put powering up my first 920 in the same class as powering up my first SSD. You could feel it. When I built my 16 core threadripper to replace that old 960 I can remember being a little disappointed. Booting up didn't really "feel" any different. That was until I ran my first multithread transcode on it, then I was impressed.

 

[randomizer]

Thats how my PC started 11 years ago, i7 920 at stock 6 GB DDR3, now that MoBo has an i7 980x OC to 4.0 GHz (bought it used on ebay for 80 bucks three years ago) and 24 GB RAM... I'm still amazed how well it runs things today 11 years after I assembled it... I guess I'm too fond of this machine and dont want to let it go 😛

I only upgraded from 6GB to 12GB a few months ago. Running out of RAM was starting to annoy me, and I found a nearly identical RAM kit (just one model above mine) on ebay for about $20, so it was a no-brainer. I'm often bottlenecked by my GTX 970 (I run at 2560x1440) so my CPU's age isn't a big deal unless I do something particularly CPU intensive like transcoding video or playing some RTS.

 

[jasonf2]

I only upgraded from 6GB to 12GB a few months ago. Running out of RAM was starting to annoy me, and I found a nearly identical RAM kit (just one model above mine) on ebay for about $20, so it was a no-brainer. I'm often bottlenecked by my GTX 970 (I run at 2560x1440) so my CPU's age isn't a big deal unless I do something particularly CPU intensive like transcoding video or playing some RTS.

I put a 970 on my I7-960. I had uped it from an old ATI when the thing was built they paired very well together. The Asus board I was running had some serious legacy drivers on the sound and some of the peripheral stuff. Hunting it down was a pain and when the SATA controller popped on it I finally had an excuse to upgrade, not because of general use performance.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I had an i7 940. It played beamng drive nicely

 

[Darkbreeze]

So tell me, what does:

The majority of those processors are so outdated that I would be questioning OS and driver support on Windows 10 long before worrying about SC.

Have to do with gaming? Eh, nevermind. It's really not that important anyhow.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I'm certain that the zero people who play Star Citizen on Pentium and Celeron CPUs are just heartbroken over this. I wonder what the nonexistent Athlon and Sempron players think.

 

[Unolocogringo]

I'm certain that the zero people who play Star Citizen on Pentium and Celeron CPUs are just heartbroken over this. I wonder what the nonexistent Athlon and Sempron players think.

Watch it there !!!!!!😉
I just retired my old one a few months back . Was able to finally get my new parts from newegg.

M5A97
Phenom 2 960T Unlocked to 6 cores and overclocked to 3.6
8 gig Hyper X 1600 9/9/9
256GB micron m.2 on 4x pci-e card.
WD 1TB black
EVGA GTX 1070 SC
CM HAF 912 case
EVGA RM 850X
Still quite snappy but she had folded for many years and still runs.
Put her away in the basement with all of the other retired toys.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Well, so much for the entire context of this article, because this article just made it a moot point.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...pentium-cpus-finally-get-avx2-avx-512-support

 

[greenreaper]

Well, so much for the entire context of this article, because this article just made it a moot point.

Not really - people stuck in this situation still need a new CPU. It just means that there won't be any more people with new Intel-based PCs unable to run it... at least once Tiger Lake become standard, which might take a few years.

Of course we will see this repeat with AVX-512, which is a whole family of instructions to offer Intel limitless segmentation opportunities. The 10nm Tiger Lake and Ice Lake before it have reasonably-comprehensive coverage. But 14nm CPUs, based on Skylake, Cannon Lake, Cascade Lake and Cooper Lake do not - and these are very much being sold today, and are most likely to have been used for high-power gaming systems.

Requiring anything over Skylake's feature set is a non-starter for the foreseeable future. And that's only feasible once people are off Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge and Broadwell - the latter still being sold as the Xeon-D, since Skylake is so power-hungry (partly due to AVX-512).

 

[Darkbreeze]

Doesn't matter. I could say the sun comes up and goes down and one of you malcontents would argue against it saying it really just stays in place.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Doesn't matter. I could say the sun comes up and goes down and one of you malcontents would argue against it saying it really just stays in place.

In other recent news, earth is flat.

 

[Wolfshadw]

Doesn't matter. I could say the sun comes up and goes down and one of you malcontents would argue against it saying it really just stays in place.

Actually, the sun goes down and THEN comes up.

In other recent news, earth is flat.

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-Wolf sends

 

[Darkbreeze]

See what I mean? Malcontents. They are everywhere.

 

[Wolfshadw]

See what I mean? Malcontents. They are everywhere.

Yes! Yes, you are!

-Wolf sends

 

[Darkbreeze]

Exactly.

 

[cryoburner]

Actually, the sun goes down and THEN comes up.

The earth is rotating, so the sun only appears to come up and go down from the perspective of those on the planet's surface. : 3

It is probable that the sun sees some upward and downward variance in its movement relative to the galactic disc as it makes its way around the galaxy though, so some amount of upward and downward movement probably happens.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The earth is rotating, so the sun only appears to come up and go down from the perspective of those on the planet's surface. : 3

It is probable that the sun sees some upward and downward variance in its movement relative to the galactic disc as it makes its way around the galaxy though, so some amount of upward and downward movement probably happens.

More fake news.

 

[Phaaze88]

Geez, if it really wasn't obvious by now... this game may never be finished.
They keep updating the dang engine, forcing themselves to back-track a good deal, thus keeping the game in beta limbo.
What's next? RTRT?
DX 13?
AVX 512? Goodness, if they were to do this one, many Intel owners would lose their OCs... LOL!

 

[Beredius]

Star Citizen requires AVX instructions to run the game, so Intel Pentium and Celeron processors will no longer work.

Star Citizen Now Requires AVX Support, Killing off Intel Pentium Platforms : Read more

Will playstation 1 or the Xbox play it? Because it's kind of like people are expecting games to just continually get better and still run on old PC platforms.