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[citation][nom]ramon zarat[/nom]1- In makes **virtual** economy sense to them in their ivory tower before the release of Windows 8 and its abomination desktop interface Metro. Once the user base revolts (they already do like I've never seen before and I've been around since DOS) and totally refuse to buy it, we will see how much "economic sense" it actually make in real life2- Metro is already dead on desktop. You don't know it, MS don't know it, but the reality check is undeniable: The Metro interface is pure nonsense for a desktop / corporate environment, PERIOD. The tsunami backlash that is coming their way is of unprecedented epic proportion. 3- Metro is NOT here to say. Microsoft WILL bend. I can bet you Windows 9 won't have Metro and a patch to remove it from Windows 8 desktop edition is most probably underway as we speak. Microsoft is stupid but not suicidal. Since no one will buy this abomination on desktop, they will remove it. I can assure you. 4- Not even Windows ME or Vista stirred so much visceral hate and controversy. And on top, so soon in its development? For a beta product not even released yet? Wow... Metro on desktop has "failure", capital F, written all over it.[/citation]

i see MS having no choice but to bend because i see businesses not upgrading their client computers because of the new UI plus windows 8 server has the new UI too so no one will upgrade to any version of this OS
 
I've no problem with start button being gone, but I would like to be able to click anywhere on the clutter (metro) free desktop to bring up highly customizable menus. Something like e16 has been doing last 15 years...
 
For me its worth upgrading to windows 8 just to get the ability to mount iso's directly. Working with as many software builds as I do, and having my machine f'd up by every third party iso mounting tool was a pita.

If you don't like metro turn it off, its one registry key. If your not comfortable / capable of changing a single registry key one time, then you probably can't install a new OS anyways.
 


sure you can turn off metro but how the hell are you going to access your programs when there is NO START BUTTON!!!
 
Anyone who is windows 8 "competent" knows the start button isnt needed. Yeah it was weird at first, I hated it myself, but once I learned how to use the keyboard and how to right click, it was magical... and faster.
 
I remember when the "Start" button was first introduced in Windows 95. The first review I read about it went something like this:
In order to shutdown the system you have to click the start button. Wait, you have to hit "start" in order to "stop"??? Fail.
Finally the folks at MS are addressing that guy's concern!
 
Considering that Windows 8 adds precisely zero functionality over Win7, I don't see any reason to "crossdate" to Win8. People with tablets (the people not doing any actual work) might enjoy it however. Hey, whatever it takes to look at nudes on the go, I guess?

But yeah, Metro is just short for "Metrosexual", really.
 
[citation][nom]segio526[/nom]He described the issue I have with the new Start screen perfectly. Although, to make it seamless, he should use the new windows logo in either a flat blue circle, or by itself.[/citation]

No, That new logo sucks.
 
I'm curious how many of you hating on Windows 8 have actually TRIED THE CONSUMER PREVIEW. Well, I HAVE. It actually works pretty well on a desktop, if you ask me. You all are so used to the old way of doing things that you seem oblivious to the flaws in the old model. You think the multi-tiered tree structure is really the most efficient way to find your programs? Really? You think the old control panel was really the best way to find settings? Sure, after you've used it for a decade and a half, you learn where things are, but that doesn't make it the best way of doings things. Honestly, the people that are supposed to be the power users seem to whine the most about having to adapt to a new UI. Give me a break. What functionality are you losing with Windows 8? Not much, if anything. Seriously, put your most used desktop programs right on the left of the start screen, click the lower left corner, and CLICK ON THE TILE! You're there! Voila! Was that so difficult? Actually, navigating the start screen with a scroll wheel seems quite quick and efficient and you don't have to navigate through some multilevel menu structure and hope you don't slip off the menu too long so it closes on you.
 
[citation][nom]iamvortigaunt[/nom]I'm curious how many of you hating on Windows 8 have actually TRIED THE CONSUMER PREVIEW. Well, I HAVE. It actually works pretty well on a desktop, if you ask me. You all are so used to the old way of doing things that you seem oblivious to the flaws in the old model. [/citation]

I've worked with the developer preview as well as the consumer preview. It works "pretty well on a desktop" like square tires work "pretty well" on a sports car. Yeah, you'll get there eventually, but with a lot of pain and some envious looks at the people with round tires.

It'll be fine for tablets, sure. For desktops, no.
 
[citation][nom]dalethepcman[/nom]For me its worth upgrading to windows 8 just to get the ability to mount iso's directly. Working with as many software builds as I do, and having my machine f'd up by every third party iso mounting tool was a pita.If you don't like metro turn it off, its one registry key. If your not comfortable / capable of changing a single registry key one time, then you probably can't install a new OS anyways.[/citation]

You're joking right? You want Windows 8 because, unlike everyone else with a brain, you can't get daemon tools lite to work correctly?
 


sorry but METRO really is a step back. going from the start menu's small program menu to a full screen program list that feel's like it was only built for touch screens is a big step backward.
 
im using startdock on my win7, not really bad after all. it can also hide the start menu tab and do the work on his own having itself the start menu icon where ever i wanted to place it,... really like windows os except from their startup sounds.. :)
 
[citation][nom]iamvortigaunt[/nom]I'm curious how many of you hating on Windows 8 have actually TRIED THE CONSUMER PREVIEW. Well, I HAVE. It actually works pretty well on a desktop, if you ask me. You all are so used to the old way of doing things that you seem oblivious to the flaws in the old model. You think the multi-tiered tree structure is really the most efficient way to find your programs? Really? You think the old control panel was really the best way to find settings? Sure, after you've used it for a decade and a half, you learn where things are, but that doesn't make it the best way of doings things. Honestly, the people that are supposed to be the power users seem to whine the most about having to adapt to a new UI. Give me a break. What functionality are you losing with Windows 8? Not much, if anything. Seriously, put your most used desktop programs right on the left of the start screen, click the lower left corner, and CLICK ON THE TILE! You're there! Voila! Was that so difficult? Actually, navigating the start screen with a scroll wheel seems quite quick and efficient and you don't have to navigate through some multilevel menu structure and hope you don't slip off the menu too long so it closes on you.[/citation]

You must not have used Win7. The menu NEVER closes until you click off of it. I just tested it. Also, you get a LIST that you can scroll through and the entries don't require you to pan through several pages before you get to the one you want. I'm not an idiot, I know what the applications name is. I don't need an enormous "tile" to show me what it is.

That said, you must not have used the search function to find apps. Click start... start typing the program's name. It comes right up and I didn't have to be completely removed from my desktop to get there. Also, it's a full fledged application, not some worthless cut down version that makes me feel like I'm using the MSN browser from the 90s.
 
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