Steam Banning Innocent MW2 Players, Maybe

[Guest]

Bunch of crying cheaters.

 

[NuclearShadow]

Giving a free copy of L4D 2 while a good gesture does not really earn forgiveness of what happened. It's not even the false ban itself I would have been mad about but more of being called a cheater. So not only did they ban many people for no reason but they slandered them too.

 

[xerroz]

Another reason why Steam and Valve blows massive cock. We ran an experiment with a friend where he ran 0 programs besides steam and the game and he got banned. Stupid imo but hey, thats what happens when a company is ruling the digital distribution

 

[tsnorquist]

I think a free copy of L4D2 is a good compromise. They could have given you a free rubber bumper for your mouse instead =)

 

[footsoldier]

[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]Giving a free copy of L4D 2 while a good gesture does not really earn forgiveness of what happened. It's not even the false ban itself I would have been mad about but more of being called a cheater. So not only did they ban many people for no reason but they slandered them too.[/citation]

Please wake up. 2 FREE copies are not enough, what more do you want? They admit they made a mistake, get over with it. L4D2 is so much better than that crappy game anyway.

 

[jalek]

MW2 was never good on the PC anyway, it belongs on consoles.

 

[joytech22]

I WAS BANNED AND MY MW2 IS STILL DOWNLOADING PATCHES :

 

[HappyBB]

That's why I hate to install software like Steam on my PC. I would rather play pirated games than installing Steam.

 

[dEAne]

Me too, marketing or a bug they should fix or busted - no one will ever wanted to buy that software again.

 

[ShouldntHave]

Let's recap a few things one should never ever do:

#1 ------ buy MW2 in the first place, or any other game whose manufacturers think they/it are cool enough to overprice it, eliminate much-desired traditional features, and in general exploit their de facto dominance of a market niche without really delivering a mind-blowingly advanced, feature-rich product. (/waves to Starcraft II/Blizzard)

#2 ------ buy any game on Steam that can be had elsewhere unless it is on sick discount -- let's say >=50% (obviously not the case w/ MW2; see item #1.)

Problem prevented!

PS Pimp avatar award goes to trialsking. The whistles do indeed go "woo-woo".

 

[hardcore_gamer]

[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]I WAS BANNED AND MY MW2 IS STILL DOWNLOADING PATCHES :[/citation]

LOL 😀

 

[a-a-a]

It looks like the folks at steam were doing the PC gamers a favor. MW2 is such a crappy game anyway, they were trying to save them from the console virus known as porting.

 

[impreza]

[citation][nom]clivene09[/nom]Sounds like a plan by Activision to make more money.[/citation]

could well be true, ban all the players from online, have no lan or dedicated servers, makes the players buy the new game.

 

[tommysch]

We should ban MW2 from the PC scene...

 

[HavoCnMe]

Those who were hit by the VAC will need to repurchase the game in order to play it again.

LMFAO! I am so glad I didn't purchase that game. Antivision and Steam are looking to rack in more money for a retarded game that may ban you again. Waste your money a second time fanboys.

 

[tfmc_shikamaru]

does this really even matter? i did not know people were even still playing such a bad game for the pc.

 

[gm0n3y]

People actually play that game on PC? I can't believe people stuck around this long with no dedicated servers.

 

[MCchum]

About Time , I hope more get banned for exploits of the game .
You cant go into a room without 1 or more running some sort of exploit to gain an unfair advantage over others. Just to make themselves look good or maybe go to kindergarden and tell their little buddies how the pwned in MW2 yesterday by running an exploit ...

good for Valve or Activision or Steam for finally doing something !!!

 

[nukemaster]

Well. At least they have fixed and are fixing it.

Even balance(PunkBuster) hardware banned 2 of my system back in the day(almost at the same time) and just kept closing support tickets when I asked for then to review this issue.

So far VAC has given me no such issues. Best of all, unlike PB, it does not crash games on me or slow the game down when updating.

 

[gm0n3y]

[citation][nom]MCchum[/nom]About Time , I hope more get banned for exploits of the game .You cant go into a room without 1 or more running some sort of exploit to gain an unfair advantage over others. Just to make themselves look good or maybe go to kindergarden and tell their little buddies how the pwned in MW2 yesterday by running an exploit ... good for Valve or Activision or Steam for finally doing something !!![/citation]
I've been playing COD4 since it came out and rarely see people cheating. Must be a COD6 'feature'.

 

[razor512]

One thing is that as it is now, the game has a lot of cheaters.

just have someone from seam randomly play in some servers for at least 1-2 hours each day and they will find probably 70-80 cheaters a day.

I don't care how good you are, getting about 10 headshots from across the map where users are barely out of your view distance is not skill. and so is shooting players from under the map or from inside a wall or directly in front of you but invisible.

Another thing that does not seem like skill is a player standing in a large open area and nearly instantly turning and getting a headshot to everyone that comes within line of sight of them.

Or users who you can shoot all day or for laughs will stand there and let you shoot them then suddenly get a headshot on you (hitbox cheat where you send your hitbox underground so bullets cant hurt you but explosives can)

Or when a user can move their hitbox to the side then stand near a wall and not have bullets or explosives kill them.

Many of the users who claim to be innocent are in fact cheaters who paid for a cheat that was suppose to be undetected (many sites sell them and yes they do work just not for long and a random update can get you caught, when that happens the users will complain to the company saying that they did not cheat.

Or some users will use a small cheat such as a wall hack that shows names that way the walls do not have to be transparent.

Also with the anti cheat system, you can be banned after closing the game if you are reported and investigated

The reason why the bannings cant be argued is because all of the cheaters will argue that they were not cheating. and just because a update causes a large number of bannings does not mean that it is defective. With the numbers of cheaters, I am surprised it didn't ban half of the players.

 

[razor512]

The most steam can do is investigate the program more but when making an anti cheat system the anticheat group works with the company that made the game.

The company that made the game will profile info that basically says them. while gaming, these memory values should be within these ranges, if they are not then the user is cheating. It is quite simple and is effective.

False positives usually happens if a user has an infection designed to steal info from games (such as account info), or has a kill tracker or other random program that hooks into the game to provide stuff like chats, music or other random stuff.

While mistakes can be made. It doesn't change the fact that more work needs to be done to ban cheaters, and unfortunately, due to the ever trickier ways people are cheating, it is getting more difficult to make a proper anticheat and thus more false positives may happen.

 

[clivene09]

Let's be clear. There are alot of cheaters in MW2. I have played it, and I agree. It is ridiculous. The problem was that the VAC was not catching the cheaters, because they have some way of circumventing the VAC. It was banning people based purely on a mismatch caused by a ROM image update that Valve implemented. Now, maybe some people who actually do cheat did get banned by this, but many of these people were clueless innocents of which there are still plenty of those who go along with the cheaters.