Question Storage Drive and some gaming - WD SN850X vs. Nextorage Japan vs Verbatim Verbatim Vi7000

[alexb75]

Hi all,

I already have a Solidigm P44 Pro for my boot drive (1TB), now looking for a 2 or 4TB drive my storage drive. It would host all my files, plus any extra games that may not fit on my 1TB boot drive.

I don't want it to be best of the best, but good value of the top SSDs (TLC, DRAM, PCI-E 4.0)... and I have narrowed them down to these three drives:

- WD SN850X $156
- Nextorage Japan $149
- Verbatim Verbatim Vi7000 $135
- SK Hynix P41 Pro $149

I know a lot about WD but it's a bit older now, P41 used to be top dog, but in many latest tests it does very poorly if it's full (firmware), the other two benchmark well, and have good reviews by users, but I can't tell their chipset, or other details to know which is better. Any ideas?

Any ideas?

PS. I just saw BOTH Solidigm P41 Plus with 4100 MB/S at much cheaper... WHY? Is that a different SSD altogether vs SK Hynix P41?!

 

[Lutfij]

Nextorage Japan $149
I'd vote for either the Nextorage Japan, if you're look at this;

G Series｜M.2 2280 PCIe®4.0 NVMe™ SSD – Nextorage

G Series｜M.2 2280 PCIe®4.0 NVMe™ Gaming SSD 8TB / 4TB / 2TB / 1TB View Full Specs Where to Buy Elite gaming M....

www.nextorage.net

 

[baboma]

Given 2TB's unfavorable pricing, suggest paying a bit more for 4TB instead,

https://amazon.com/dp/B0CJ2N9485 Silicon Power US75 4TB $220

https://goo.gl/search?silicon+power+4tb+us75+review

For storage, Gen3 would've sufficed. But with current pricing, it (as well as SATA SSDs) costs same as Gen4.

>I just saw BOTH Solidigm P41 Plus with 4100 MB/S at much cheaper... WHY? Is that a different SSD altogether vs SK Hynix P41?!

Solidigm P44 Pro is rebranded SK Hynix Platinum P41. Solidigm P41 Plus is lower tier.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4

 

[alexb75]

Given 2TB's unfavorable pricing, suggest paying a bit more for 4TB instead,

https://amazon.com/dp/B0CJ2N9485 Silicon Power US75 4TB $220

https://goo.gl/search?silicon+power+4tb+us75+review

For storage, Gen3 would've sufficed. But with current pricing, it (as well as SATA SSDs) costs same as Gen4.

>I just saw BOTH Solidigm P41 Plus with 4100 MB/S at much cheaper... WHY? Is that a different SSD altogether vs SK Hynix P41?!

Solidigm P44 Pro is rebranded SK Hynix Platinum P41. Solidigm P41 Plus is lower tier.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4

Is that a decent SSD? I am not familiar with it, looks like it lacks DRAM, right? 4TB would be best for sure. Problem was most top 4TB drives I looked at were MORE than DOUBLE the 2TB price!

The prices of SSD are outrageous now! No other component goes UP in price the longer they age! WTF!

 

[baboma]

>Is that a decent SSD?

It's a midrange Gen4 NVMe (read reviews linked above). Yes, DRAM-less (check specs against others in above spreadsheet.) It's new'ish, so not many reviews, but THW thought highly of it.

>The prices of SSD are outrageous now!

Yep, I bought the WD SN850X 2TB for $85 last year. 2TB used to be the pricing sweet spot. Now it's the worst spot in bang/buck.

 

[alexb75]

>Is that a decent SSD?

It's a midrange Gen4 NVMe (read reviews linked above). Yes, DRAM-less (check specs against others in above spreadsheet.) It's new'ish, so not many reviews, but THW thought highly of it.

>The prices of SSD are outrageous now!

Yep, I bought the WD SN850X 2TB for $85 last year. 2TB used to be the pricing sweet spot. Now it's the worst spot in bang/buck.

Thanks, that spreadsheet was amazing! Great resource!

I am not in a rush right now, I guess I'll wait. It's ridiculous that 4TB SSDs are not coming down in price, even in light of PCI-E 5.0 drives coming to the market.

I just bought a 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro for $89! It's insane you bought a 2TB for cheaper...

 

[alexb75]

I ended up buying this SSD, cheapest of the top SSDs in 4TB (whopping $250)!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09JCD3D7K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

However, it looks like it gets really hot, if not used with heatsink, and, it's double sided, so not sure if my SSD heatsink (ROG Strix B650e-f) would be sufficient.

These are hard to find, so I bought one just in case. I might hold on until return date to see if I get a better drive at a decent price. No other top SSD 4TB is below $300!

 

[baboma]

>I ended up buying this SSD, cheapest of the top SSDs in 4TB (whopping $250)!

One thing to keep in mind is the time factor, and how "conventional wisdom" are quickly outmoded by advancing tech. The Cardea 440 Pro was a high-end unit 2 years ago, but NVMe drives have improved much since then. There is little perf difference between DRAM-less and DRAM now.

As it happens, THW did review both the "high-end" Cardea 440 Pro, and abovementioned "midrange" SP US75, so we have like-for-like metrics to compare. Per the reviews' 3DMark, the SP unit has lower 3DMark latency (40 vs 47ms), higher bandwidth (765.8 vs 668MB/s), and thus higher score (4480 vs 3861).

For DiskBench, SP has copy xfer 1,964MB/s, read xfer 3,712MB/s. Cardea has copy xfer 1,649MB/s, read xfer 4,087MB.

For power use, SP has avg consumption of 3.04W, max of 4.25W. Cardea has avg of 4.80W, max of 7.67W.

To sum, a midrange DRAM-less unit of today is at least equivalent to if not faster than a high-end DRAM unit 2 years ago. It also draws less power and being single-sided vs double-sided, runs cooler.

https://tomshardware.com/reviews/team-group-t-force-cardea-a440-pro

https://tomshardware.com/pc-compone...iew-a-practical-choice-for-the-everyday-gamer