Stress Test MK II

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You AMD fanboys just don't get it do you?
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Please. I admit that im biased slightly, but that is for a reason (AMD benefits us).
But i ain't some "fanboy" that refuses to believe facts.



<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>
 
Nonsense. Windows scheduler had to be fixed to make proper use of HT on systems with more than one CPU.

Precious few, if any apps ever lost 20% afaik, if you have a link, I'd be happy to read it.

And a 10% boost indeed is impressive considering the minimal cost in diesize or transistor count. For reference, 10% is about the maximum improvement you see when going from 1 to 2 Mb L2 cache, which almost doubles diesize and transistor count.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
>Between P-D EE and AMD X2 the P-D EE wins because able to
>manage 4+ tasks better than X2 in WinXP which is what the
>majority of users use.

I hope you are being sarcastic here ?

>Whether you like it or not Intel is going to win the
>dual-core race through OEM.

there is no race, unless you could explain to me where the finish line is, and what the prize is for however reaches it first.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
If you want to run apps at different priority, why you want to override it in way that you are not in control ?


<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>
 
Let have a practicle example where HT hinders system performance when you have low priority theads as in this case.
You have a graphics house where all workstations have a low priority thread running for rendering purposes (each workstation renders a frame), however you have a deadline to produce that new graphical model you are working on.
Now in this company the workstation user does not have admin rights to change thread priorities or stop threads.
The last thing you would want is from the rendering thead to slow down your work (as we saw in the original test)
Another example; you are playing a network game and have Divx running in the background, you are just about to beat everybody on line and bang your performance drops you skip a couple of frames and bang, your dead.
The only way we can prove the HT helps is to have all 4 threads running with equal prioriy and then compare performance.
 
you have a deadline to produce that new graphical model you are working on.
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I would not leave that to HT or OS scheduler, i would arrange so that enough CPU cycles are available when needed.
But it wasn't a bad example.

you are playing a network game and have Divx running in the background, you are just about to beat everybody on line and bang your performance drops you skip a couple of frames and bang, your dead.
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Thats a single core problem, and in that HT helps.
In dual core systems everything goes smoothly.

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by HansGruber on 06/17/05 01:38 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
OK may he doesn't just have the game and Divx running but also winrar and lame as in the test and is playing online.
OK for your average joe schmo the performance of winrar and lame probably ain't that important.
But if he was such a gamer he'd probably get an FX anyway.
 
OK may he doesn't just have the game and Divx running but also winrar and lame as in the test and is playing online.
OK for your average joe schmo the performance of winrar and lame probably ain't that important.
But if he was such a gamer he'd probably get an FX anyway.
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Maybe he should get a life.. :lol:

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>
 
Pity he's going to have to keep RMAing the motherboard and memory until he gets the right combination that actually works together. And Dad'll get pissed cos the electricity bill just went up
 
Pity he's going to have to keep RMAing the motherboard and memory until he gets the right combination that actually works together. And Dad'll get pissed cos the electricity bill just went up
 
Pity he's going to have to keep RMAing the motherboard and memory until he gets the right combination that actually works together. And Dad'll get pissed cos the electricity bill just went up
 
Whether your an AMD or Intel supporter, one thing is clear -
NO reliable results or performance data can be gleaned from any of these 'tests'.

1) The premise for the original test i.e. stress, has long since gone bye bye.
2) The ineptitude of the guys running the test.
3) No controlled test conditions/configurations.
4) Things changed arbitrarily.
5) Updates which are totally inaccurate.
6) The use of the latest 'stealth' board that reports no data at all.
7) Their obvious lack of knowledge of Windows i.e. scheduler.

What this test has shown -
That the guys at THG have as much idea of running a controlled test as I have of running a Nuclear Power Station.

All I will say is that they have convinced me that a X2 4400 will be a good buy.
Why?
Because they are going out of their way to slam the 4800 (bad memory controller crap etc), and praise the P840 based on inaccurate and unfounded claims.
So if they are trying that hard to discredit the X2, must be something good about it.


THG used to be the place to come to for fair, unbiased well run tests. What the hell happened?
 
hear hear!

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2400+][2000+][1.3][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

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Well both machines restarted, and not a peep outta THG.

Surprised - not really.
Why not post your update THG?
Oh I guess Update 9 =
The P840 got its collective silicon ass whipped. So we won't be seeing an update till you can twist some figures around to show it actually did better.

About time you climbed outta the Intel Techs asses and came up for air dont you think?

SHAME ON YOU.
 
So whats going on now? Looks like Winrar is only running - this is useless - X2 beat Dully in all 4, so surely it will own on just single app. This has been tested already by other sites, why again?? This "Stress Test" is over as far as I can see, what are they trying to pull? Most likey hopeing the X2 rig will have a problem so they can say "Oh here look, AMD is unstable, lol" Anyways, this whole test was entertaining to say the least.
 
Lol it was a 65 pages thread usually is!
Now they are running the 4 apps one after the other...why not? Im more interested to see THG's comments then the actual results, I smel controversy for the 9th time lol

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BTW - Currently on the X2 rig, temps are at 48 and thats with mostly one core working. Too bad we cant see the intel rig - im guessing its still in the 60's. But then again thats THG's plan all along, so we dont know the stats. Sheesh at lest put a temp probe in there or something... Ok im done complaining, lol.
 
All of you have the CRABS! Please take a bath in gasoline now!!!!!

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Yes and right after that smoke a cigarrete :smile:

<font color=blue>If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on</font color=blue>
 
Don't forget -
If you've lost your lighter to spark up your ciggy, you have can always use a P840 :)
Also doubles as a good space heater, toaster oven, gee it does multitask.

Anxiously awaiting a watered down, whitewashed Update 9.
 
That's not true haven't you seen the updates.
The P840 runs very cool, has no stability problems whatsoever, and the AMD accounts for 95% of the consummed power. :wink:

<font color=blue>If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on</font color=blue>
 
lol, but we already knew that didnt we?

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Instead of 4 applications, why not do 5, or 6...
THG should add a rendering app like POV-Ray in addition to the other 4...
The majority of dual core users out there will probably not use exactly 4 applications simultaneously all the time.
Of course, the stated object was a "Stress Test" and not a performance test, but what the hell...the X2 appears to have taken that title already so let's move on!

Cheers,
Charles
 
Ok I was reading the Update #9 on the german web site, and I think they said that they enabled hyperthreading on the intel machine again. Im not sure though, my german is rough, plus babelfish makes it worse.
 
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