Well i ran driver cleaner pro cuz that was what the BFG tech said to run. It cleans out the ati drivers but everytime i go to check it in safe mode and run it it seems to keep finding the drivers and it will delete them but im not so sure they are gone. I am not sure what kind of performance i SHOULD be getting with this card so i dont know if it IS running properly. Like i said I played BF2 in 1024x768 with 4xAA and all settings on high and it never stuttered. Im thinking my Ram could be the bottleneck but then i would get stutters in every game I would think. I can always take the card back and have it replaced if needed but again I am unsure of how much more this thing should be killing my 9800 if there are some other factors like ram or the HD slowing it down. I may just bite the bullet and get some really good corsair pc3200 ram and see what happens. I will also try the ATI driver utility and see if that cleans those old drivers out. I appreciate the feedback everyone since this thing is stumping me!