Question Stutters / Low 1% FPS ?

[Zeromancer]

Ok Hi all, last shot at this after bloody months of reinstalls of windows, trying other drivers and bios stuff.
I will keep this as short as can.

PC Specs
Mobo: MSI X870E Carbon WiFi
CPU: Ryzen 9800X3D
GPU: Nvidia 4090
RAM: 64GB Kingston Fury Beast 6000mhz
Cooler: Corsair H150
PSU: 1000w (sorry, have to check model when I'm home )

I have stutters to low 1% fps in some games but not all. going from 100+fps to 30 for half a second

it is mostly only in Online games ( Sea of thieves, the latest beta of BF6, ...
In offline (Cyberpunk, last of us, Claire,... I had no problem.

What did I try ?
- I am on the latest bios
- All you can find online for your bios I have tried. from under clocking to overclocking to turning hyper v off ....
- Memory is on Expo 1
- I did the Uninstall reinstall of the network drivers
- i Reinstalled windows 100 times.
- Tried it with a blanc windows and still get the stutters
- no afterburner installed ever.

i am thinking it is a motherboard problem but not 100% sure. And before I go spend 300+ euro on a new board for maybe no reason I will ask 1 more time if anyone has any other ideas.

 

[rgd1101]

stuttering on what exactly?
what the storage?
what the usage on cpu/gpu/ram/storage during the stuttering?
what the cpu/gpu temp during the stuttering?

 

[COLGeek]

Also, are you using a wired or wireless network connection?

 

[Zeromancer]

- Wired connection. I have tested on the 5Gb port as the 2,5Gb port. Same results

- Using a m.2 WD_black SN850 2 TB and a samsung 990pro.

In Sea of Thieves my cpu is around 20-25 procent usage, ram is only using around 16gb.
Temps in games is cpu between 60 -75C and the gpu is between 50 - 65.

Will post a screenshot this evening.

 

[COLGeek]

Did you install the AMD chipset drivers as provided directly from AMD?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/chipsets/am5/x870e.html

 

[Zeromancer]

Did you install the AMD chipset drivers as provided directly from AMD?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/chipsets/am5/x870e.html

Im sure I did but will double check this evening.

 

[Zeromancer]

Ok so i reinstalled those drivers. Sadly they did nothing.
I used the Dongle to ethernet , but that also did not help it .
This was on the motherboard default with no Expo

https://imgur.com/a/ywBauMo

 

[COLGeek]

Dongle to ethernet

What is this? A USB to ethernet adapter?

Have you tried a wireless connection to compare results?

I assume you are connecting the ethernet ports on the back of the PC to a typical home router or switch (1Gbps) so that is all either of them will operate at (both the 2.5 and 5Gbps) ports.

Are you using standard Cat 5E cablings, or the flat ones?

 

[Zeromancer]

What is this? A USB to ethernet adapter?

Have you tried a wireless connection to compare results?

I assume you are connecting the ethernet ports on the back of the PC to a typical home router or switch (1Gbps) so that is all either of them will operate at (both the 2.5 and 5Gbps) ports.

Are you using standard Cat 5E cablings, or the flat ones?

Yes a usb to ethernet adapter. It did not do anything different, just slower ethernet.
Tried Wifi aswell. no difference.
My network in house is all cat 6, to 2.5gb switches.
Standard ones. no flat ones.

I just tried Indiana jones and it also gives some stutters but WAY less then other games (online ones).

Also tried The last of us 2 again, it gives a stutter the first time you enter zoom gun.

Really strange

https://imgur.com/a/FuLwARm

 

[COLGeek]

Is everything in your BIOS running at default settings?

 

[Zeromancer]

Is everything in your BIOS running at default settings?

Yes , did a reset this evening. left Expo Off.
These results where all after i did the reset

 

[COLGeek]

I suggest something radical. Remove the 4090 and use the integrated video adapter(you indeed have this) and compare the results using just it.

 

[Zeromancer]

I suggest something radical. Remove the 4090 and use the integrated video adapter(you indeed have this) and compare the results using just it.

Just Tried this.
Ofc Framerate is dismal and Sea of thieves would not even run (driver crash)

These are the results of Diablo 4 and The outlast trials.

https://imgur.com/a/itbL4PY

Almost none or any stutters ( Except when loading up the lvl) just low framerate.

 

[Zeromancer]

Just Tried this.
Ofc Framerate is dismal and Sea of thieves would not even run (driver crash)

These are the results of Diablo 4 and The outlast trials.

https://imgur.com/a/itbL4PY

Almost none or any stutters ( Except when loading up the lvl) just low framerate.

Just for reference , this is the outlast trials on the 4090 ( all settings on low btw)

https://imgur.com/a/5ZXVigz

All Stutters

 

[COLGeek]

So the 4090 and PSU are the two suspects. What is the actual make/model and age ( if you know) of the PSU?

 

[Zeromancer]

So the 4090 and PSU are the two suspects. What is the actual make/model and age ( if you know) of the PSU?

So the psu is a Corsair rm1000x . Bought it when i got the 4090 , so prob from early 2023.

The 4090 is a gigabyte .

 

[COLGeek]

Try this, find the settings in your BIOS where you can manually set your PCIe version/generation. Manually set the version/generation 3. After restarting and testing performance, any change?

 

[Zeromancer]

Try this, find the settings in your BIOS where you can manually set your PCIe version/generation. Manually set the version/generation 3. After restarting and testing performance, any change?

https://imgur.com/a/4eAKiib

Sadly no .


Also checked sea of thieves again :

https://imgur.com/a/afEcfCd

 

[COLGeek]

Did I see that right? Not a X16 connection.

 

[Zeromancer]

Did I see that right? Not a X16 connection.

mmm, i reseated 1 of the m.2.

now it shows x16, but not much change.

https://imgur.com/a/zuXfCGf

 

[COLGeek]

I am leaning toward the GPU being an issue. Do you have access to another one you could use for testing?

 

[Zeromancer]

I am leaning toward the GPU being an issue. Do you have access to another one you could use for testing?

Ok, will try a different card this evening.

 

[Zeromancer]

I tried a different card (Nvidia 2080ti).
results:
- Still stutter in sea of thieves.
-Some stutters in The outlast trials
-No stutters in the BF6 Beta

https://imgur.com/a/sNJ4bDI

I put in my 4090 in again and tried With a locked fps (80) and a unlocked in BF6
This gave me stutters again on both.

https://imgur.com/a/l8GclLr

 

[COLGeek]

With the 4090 installed, what are your CPU and GPU operating temperatures at idle and under load?

This is starting to suggest a possible motherboard issue.

BTW, there are a couple active threads regarding this behavior with the same CPU. Curious.

 

[Zeromancer]

This is idle :

https://imgur.com/a/LnZFcij

And this is under load , i used Heaven benchmark. can use other stuff if needed

https://imgur.com/a/hPk5S9X