Suggestions/Advice on Build?

[drabspirit]

Hello! First off, thank you for anyone who takes their time to reply and give your opinions. Second off I am building this system for a friend and they don't need it for much more than some low-medium end gaming (like minecraft, rocket league, and maybe some Bandai Namco games.) They'll also need it for general web browsing, high quality video streaming and reliability for school work.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mCxhd6

If anyone can, keep the cost around $600 max with more reliable hardware, or lower it with better performance/reliablity. Thanks!

 

[KR2]

Get some more RAM for better performance to be able to have more programs open at a time and also for smoother performance and you don't need that motherboard you selected, get a cheaper one because motherboards don't affect performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYWY8K

 

[drabspirit]

Get some more RAM for better performance to be able to have more programs open at a time and also for smoother performance and you don't need that motherboard you selected, get a cheaper one because motherboards don't affect performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYWY8K

Ah, I never did give into consideration that motherboard probably wouldnt give performance, haha. Thanks.

 

[The Paladin]

I always buy a system based on "not buying dead-end hardware, go with a set up you can upgrade later", based on that concept.
I suggest 7th gen CPU, motherboard, with M2 drive, better video card for same price as your 750ti, and power supply to carry you later when you decide to go to I5 or I7.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel G4600 Kaby Lake Dual-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1151 51W BX80677G4600 ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($58.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow G2 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($63.74 @ Jet)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.51 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $604.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 05:36 EST-0500

But in case you prefer AMD, based on your pick, changed Motherboard, 2x memory you had, 2x size hdd

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($148.67 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.51 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $608.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 05:50 EST-0500

 

[user11464]

Intel G4560
B250m Motherboard
1x8gb 2400mhz RAM
GTX 1050Ti

everything but the GPU is literally the newest stuff out, which leaves you great future proofing and upgrade potential. the g4560 is probably the best price to performance CPU there is. Not to mention it will outlast and run cooler than anything AMD has. the gtx 1050Ti is also one of the best price to performance GPUs there is.

 

[drabspirit]

I always buy a system based on "not buying dead-end hardware, go with a set up you can upgrade later", based on that concept.
I suggest 7th gen CPU, motherboard, with M2 drive, better video card for same price as your 750ti, and power supply to carry you later when you decide to go to I5 or I7.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: Intel G4600 Kaby Lake Dual-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1151 51W BX80677G4600 ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($58.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow G2 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($63.74 @ Jet)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.51 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $604.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 05:36 EST-0500

Thank you for the reply! As I know little to nothing about SSD's, just that they're said to be godspeed in computers, what's the difference between the M2 drive and what I had? Also, I found this silver psu for cheaper than the bronze you had provided and I was wondering if it was any better? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/83h9TW/fsp-group-power-supply-raiders450

 

[The Paladin]

M.2 is a on board connection, it looks like a slim cards with chips on it mounted on the motherboard directly, (also to be noted when this is install Sata 1 will be disable just plug the other 1tb HDD into Sata when installing) and because the M.2 port is direct connected it is Much faster than standard Sata SSD.

there are numerous power supplies out there for cheaper yes, and I don't recognize the FSP brand, but the one I chose was in perception that in the future he will upgrade is CPU to an I5 6700 or I7 7700 (on a sale for example) will the FSP do until then probably so. will it manage when upgrade time comes, I have doubts on that.

 

[user11464]

here is my opinion on a good starting point. You could spend less on a case, but this case is super nice, same with the motherboard, but this one has 3 fan headers and good audio. You could spend more on an even better CPU. I would ditch windows 10 since it's basically free. I didn't add a ssd because I don't know which ones are good.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI B250M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $505.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 06:04 EST-0500

 

[drabspirit]

M.2 is a on board connection, it looks like a slim cards with chips on it mounted on the motherboard directly, (also to be noted when this is install Sata 1 will be disable just plug the other 1tb HDD into Sata when installing) and because the M.2 port is direct connected it is Much faster than standard Sata SSD.

there are numerous power supplies out there for cheaper yes, and I don't recognize the FSP brand, but the one I chose was in perception that in the future he will upgrade is CPU to an I5 6700 or I7 7700 (on a sale for example) will the FSP do until then probably so. will it manage when upgrade time comes, I have doubts on that.

Interesting, I've never seen a sdd that plugs directly in. And why do you doubt it wouldn't manage when upgrade time were to come?

 

[Icaraeus]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

 

[The Paladin]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

Psst his budget is 600$, ryzen starts at 400$...

 

[drabspirit]

here is my opinion on a good starting point. You could spend less on a case, but this case is super nice, same with the motherboard, but this one has 3 fan headers and good audio. You could spend more on an even better CPU. I would ditch windows 10 since it's basically free. I didn't add a ssd because I don't know which ones are good.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI B250M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $505.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 06:04 EST-0500

I know nothing about ssds but Paladin's M2 drive is looking very interesting and promising haha. So thanks for the reply, I'll keep this around, brought the price down too which is good. If you dont mind me asking, how is windows 10 basically free?

 

[The Paladin]

And why do you doubt it wouldn't manage when upgrade time were to come?

well I don't know the brand, which makes me worry about it, it could be a simple knee jerk reaction.

 

[drabspirit]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

Ryzen would certainly great, but out of budget haha

 

[drabspirit]

And why do you doubt it wouldn't manage when upgrade time were to come?

well I don't know the brand, which makes me worry about it, it could be a simple knee jerk reaction.

Ah, okay, I thought maybe there was something about it I overlooked but I guess not. Definitely thanks for the help though! Still very intrigued by the M2 drive

 

[user11464]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

I would always suggest Intel considering they last forever and don't rely on tricking people into thinking more cores is better.

 

[Icaraeus]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

Psst his budget is 600$, ryzen starts at 400$...

RyZen starts at $130, with the 8C models starting at $300

 

[Icaraeus]

I would never suggest Intel considering RyZen is launching this week

I would always suggest Intel considering they last forever and don't rely on tricking people into thinking more cores is better.

Have you seen the AMD RyZen benchmarks and pricing? RyZen $300 model beats Intel's $1050 6900K

 

[ScrewySqrl]

the SSD is a good idea, but not Kingston.

with some price trimming I was able to get a larger, better quality SSD, and a much faster RX 470 video card, which will let you up the quality in games from medium to high.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $561.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 06:49 EST-0500

its still enough under budget you could consider a larger (2 tb) HDD

 

[user11464]

here is my opinion on a good starting point. You could spend less on a case, but this case is super nice, same with the motherboard, but this one has 3 fan headers and good audio. You could spend more on an even better CPU. I would ditch windows 10 since it's basically free. I didn't add a ssd because I don't know which ones are good.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: MSI B250M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $505.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 06:04 EST-0500

I know nothing about ssds but Paladin's M2 drive is looking very interesting and promising haha. So thanks for the reply, I'll keep this around, brought the price down too which is good. If you dont mind me asking, how is windows 10 basically free?

last I checked(and I hope it's still the case, as I'm putting together my build now with this in mind) you download windows 10 officially as a bootable USB just like the paid version, you install it, and you have a fully working Windows 10. It will be an unactivated version ofcourse, and you have the option of putting in an activation key if you buy one. The only catch is that you have a watermark on your desktop wallpaper telling you to purchase(which actually has a workaround to change your desktop wallpaper) and you might get a notification here and there... but it's basically a trial version with no limitations. That is what people have been using this past year, and I have it on a USB stick right now, i bent a pin on my motherboard and am waiting for my new one, and my build will be complete.