Suggestions for a very high end build?

[ieatpizza]

Hi,

I am looking to create a very high-end build. My budget is in the 5 digits -- $2x,xxx ish for the tower; which I realize is on the extreme/high end of spending, but is something I'm willing to do.

I already have 4 1TB 850PRO SSDs. I'd like to buy new parts for everything else. I don't mind what website I'm buying from as long as it is a reliable and well-known site.

I'm also looking to constantly upgrade this as new parts come out, and am looking into overclocking and setting up a custom liquid cooling loop.

In this case, what parts would you suggest, and any additional advice or comments?

Thanks.

 

[logainofhades]

What are your intentions for this build? $20k is a bit nuts.

 

[USAFRet]

The performance difference between a $20,000 system and a $5,000 system is zero.

 

[Derza10]

Yea don't think i can even build a computer that costs that much, This is what i'd get if money wasn't a factor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus X99-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($489.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($835.38 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $12304.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 14:38 EDT-0400

(Didn't add any storage because you said you had 4 1tb SSDs)
But this is only like a $6200 tower, and almost $6000 worth of monitors.
You could get the same performance in games for half the price, so I wouldn't recommend this build.

 

[accidentalabort]

Are you trying to set up a spy network? Or wage some kind of war?

I would agree with what others have said, a 5000-6000 system seems like a better idea. Computers aren't future-proof.

 

[ieatpizza]

The performance difference between a $20,000 system and a $5,000 system is zero.

I know I could easily build a 10k system simply by maxing all of the normal things out (i7 extreme, however much RAM fits in a normal motherboard, and a Titan Z SLI setup plus the 3k spent on the SSDs); which should obviously perform better than a build where one of these categories was compromised in.

Suggestion for a (Very) High end build? With silly money to spend?
Cut it to 3000 dollars, seeing as you have a fist full of SSD's.
No matter what you spend it will be worthless and behind the times in 5 years so just spend what you need. What will be purchasable with ANOTHER $3000 in five years time will make it worth not going bananas now.

How expensive would it be to just constantly try and upgrade this one system to keep up? I'm not expecting it to be futureproof.

Yea don't think i can even build a computer that costs that much, This is what i'd get if money wasn't a factor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus X99-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($489.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($835.38 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB K|NGP|N ACX 2.0+ Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($776.50 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Dell UP2715K 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($1979.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $12304.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 14:38 EDT-0400

(Didn't add any storage because you said you had 4 1tb SSDs)
But this is only like a $6200 tower, and almost $6000 worth of monitors.
You could get the same performance in games for half the price, so I wouldn't recommend this build.

Okay. So if money itself weren't a concern, and there were no upper (or lower) bound on budget so long as it's the absolute best performing build I could create, what's the ideal setup?

 

[USAFRet]

You haven't stated a use for this.

 

[Derza10]

For gaming or?

 

[USAFRet]

The performance difference between a $20,000 system and a $5,000 system is zero.

I know I could easily build a 10k system simply by maxing all of the normal things out (i7 extreme, however much RAM fits in a normal motherboard, and a Titan Z SLI setup plus the 3k spent on the SSDs); which should obviously perform better than a build where one of these categories was compromised in.

Not necessarily!
RAM, for instance: Beyond a certain point, it is merely extra RAM just sitting there.
If the motherboard is capable of 128GB RAM and you 'max it out', but whatever you do with it only ever uses 16GB....all that extra RAM is doing absolutely nothing. Just sitting there, wasted money.

 

[Derza10]

This is what i'd get for a gaming computer:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($193.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($110.20 @ Directron)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($171.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3135.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 15:34 EDT-0400

 

[Derza10]

Or if you want to go with a LGA 2011 build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($228.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($251.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($110.20 @ Directron)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($171.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3374.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 15:38 EDT-0400

 

[ieatpizza]

You haven't stated a use for this.

For gaming or?

The performance difference between a $20,000 system and a $5,000 system is zero.

I know I could easily build a 10k system simply by maxing all of the normal things out (i7 extreme, however much RAM fits in a normal motherboard, and a Titan Z SLI setup plus the 3k spent on the SSDs); which should obviously perform better than a build where one of these categories was compromised in.

Not necessarily!
RAM, for instance: Beyond a certain point, it is merely extra RAM just sitting there.
If the motherboard is capable of 128GB RAM and you 'max it out', but whatever you do with it only ever uses 16GB....all that extra RAM is doing absolutely nothing. Just sitting there, wasted money.

I'll probably end up doing a lot of different things with it. Which is partially why I'm willing to spend so much on it, because I'm expecting this one machine to handle just about everything I'm doing, and with continual upgrades to last me a long time.

I know that, for instance, that 3d animation/simulation and rendering ends up using up a lot of RAM and GPU resources, where there really isn't an upper bound as to how much is more than enough. (which also raises another question -- consumer or workstation graphics card? or both? do they work together? I'll be playing games as well too.)

I have a lot of VMs that I use for development purposes. They currently run either on old or borrowed hardware. I'll probably want to move all of these VMs over as well, hence wanting extra RAM.

 

[USAFRet]

I have several VM's as well for dev and other purposes. The key question is...how many at once?
2GB dedicated to this one, 4GB dedicated to that one...

16GB RAM - Host OS of Win 8.1 Pro, VM's of Server 2012, LinuxMint, and either XP or WIn 7...all running at the same time.

Now...if you're going to run 8 individual VM's simultaneously, with 4GB each...OK, 16GB won't cut it.
But analyze your actual use.

 

[ellis2014]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T2J9pg

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME EATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($1472.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX200 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($414.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial MX200 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($414.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Crucial MX200 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($414.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($400.64 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($561.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($561.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($561.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $10782.37

4 gtx Titan X's that 48gb Video ram wtaf is he trying to power Nasa or blow the universe up with this, this PC is too OP 😉 why do you need this well it will get you high fps on 3 4k moniters so I hope this is up to your standards

 

[Derza10]

This is about the max i'd spend for what you want to do with it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($228.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($498.14 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $5372.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 15:57 EDT-0400

 

[ieatpizza]

I have several VM's as well for dev and other purposes. The key question is...how many at once?
2GB dedicated to this one, 4GB dedicated to that one...

16GB RAM - Host OS of Win 8.1 Pro, VM's of Server 2012, LinuxMint, and either XP or WIn 7...all running at the same time.

Now...if you're going to run 8 individual VM's simultaneously, with 4GB each...OK, 16GB won't cut it.
But analyze your actual use.

I currently have a laptop with 32gb of RAM that I'm constantly using most of with everything I'm doing on it, so as far as actual usage, I'm fairly sure I'm not just throwing money down a hole. The reason I'm asking here is because I didn't want to just go to pcpartpicker and blindly pick the most expensive of everything.

For example, I've never used an Xeon for anything besides the servers I rent so I really don't know how well they perform when used for a personal computer. Is it worth looking into getting two Xeon E5 instead of one i7 extreme?

 

[ellis2014]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PdjxjX This is hella badass it has two cores two liquid coolers 64gb 2133mhz ram 4 gtx titan X's 48gb video ram this is too good wtf do u need this for???

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PdjxjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PdjxjX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2687W V2 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($2049.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2687W V2 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($2049.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($127.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($127.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011 Motherboard ($488.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($605.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($1114.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($1114.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($1114.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (4-Way SLI) ($1114.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1600W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $10288.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 17:31 EDT-0400

 

[USAFRet]

Total: $11947.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-03 17:24 EDT-0400

Take off the $1700 of SSD drive space. He already has enough.

 

[logainofhades]

How about I build you a rig capable of playing any game you want, and you give me the rest, so I can finish my '79 Bronco project. 😛