[SOLVED] suggestions on how should i upgrade my computer?

[David_Chobani]

I'm fairly new to PC gaming because i got this computer from my brother. It plays most game very well like rainbow six, call of duty etc. But it can't run games that are intensive such as Battlefield 5, and Rust. Just any suggestions at all that can run those games would be appreciated a lot.
The Specs are as follows-
Intel Core i5-7400 @ 3.00GHz
8GB DDR4 3000Mhz
I can't specifically identify the psu but i narrowed it down to 200w to 300w 80+ bronze
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 3gb
uATX Odense2-K motherboard
Finally a small tower case.

I was considering an SSD, Ram, and a CPU upgrade but i can't determine if its a good upgrade.
Thanks

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I would upgrade CPU to an I7 7700, 16gb ram, and psu upgrade, but at that point i would just upgrade to a new platform.

I would wait untill ryzen 3000

 

[Lutfij]

I think you're still working with a prebuilt HP SFF desktop unit. If my assumption is right(and is not a transplanted prebuilt in an aftermarket chassis, then you're going to have to get a beefy PSU to deal with that GPU. In fact you should be running that entire setup with a 450W unit(at the very least). The chassis might impeded you from upgrading the PSU. On another note, the games that are struggling are due to the lack of power to the GPU. You also forgot to mention the sort of in-game details and resolution at which you game at.

 

[David_Chobani]

I think you're still working with a prebuilt HP SFF desktop unit. If my assumption is right(and is not a transplanted prebuilt in an aftermarket chassis, then you're going to have to get a beefy PSU to deal with that GPU. In fact you should be running that entire setup with a 450W unit(at the very least). The chassis might impeded you from upgrading the PSU. On another note, the games that are struggling are due to the lack of power to the GPU. You also forgot to mention the sort of in-game details and resolution at which you game at.

My bad, I play all of my games at 1080p at low graphics only because that's how I keep steady frame rates

 

[NightHawkRMX]

If you play at low your cpu is likely why you strugle in battlefield titles. You really need more than a 4 core, which isnt available on your platform

 

[David_Chobani]

If you play at low your cpu is likely why you strugle in battlefield titles. You really need more than a 4 core, which isnt available on your platform

So then what cpu and platform should i get?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

• Ryzen 9 3950X—16C/32T, 3.5GHz to 4.7GHz, 72MB cache, 105W TDP, $749 (in September)
• Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499
• Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399
• Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
• Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249
• Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199
• Ryzen 5 3400G—(Zen+) 4C/8T, 3.7GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 11 Graphics at 1400MHz, 65W TDP, $149
• Ryzen 3 3200G—(Zen+) 4C/4T, 3.6GHz to 4.0GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 8 Graphics at 1250MHz, 65W TDP, $99

 

[David_Chobani]

• Ryzen 9 3950X—16C/32T, 3.5GHz to 4.7GHz, 72MB cache, 105W TDP, $749 (in September)
• Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499
• Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399
• Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329
• Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249
• Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199
• Ryzen 5 3400G—(Zen+) 4C/8T, 3.7GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 11 Graphics at 1400MHz, 65W TDP, $149
• Ryzen 3 3200G—(Zen+) 4C/4T, 3.6GHz to 4.0GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 8 Graphics at 1250MHz, 65W TDP, $99

Thank you but wouldn't I need to buy an amd board? And would that cause compatibility issues with my graphics card?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Yess you would need ddr4 (you may have this depending) and an amd board.

AMD boards work fine with nvidia cards. Ran my ryzen cpu with a GTX 1050 for about a year

 

[David_Chobani]

Do you think that a

MSI- Radeon RX 580 8 GB armor video card can run most games
paired with a ryzen 7 and b450 tomahawk motherboard and 16 gb ram?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Yes a 580 8gb with ryzen 7 can run most games at 1080p high 60fps.

 

[David_Chobani]

Yes a 580 8gb with ryzen 7 can run most games at 1080p high 60fps.

what about at 144 fps?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Depends on the game.
If youn turn settings a good bit down it should.

 

[cryoburner]

MSI- Radeon RX 580 8 GB armor video card can run most games
paired with a ryzen 7 and b450 tomahawk motherboard and 16 gb ram?

I wouldn't bother moving from a 1060 3GB to an RX 580 8GB, as the performance difference would be too small in most titles to really be all that noticeable, especially if you are running games at reduced settings. The additional VRAM can help in some titles, and will likely keep the card relevent longer for new releases, but at 1080p with lowered settings an RX 580 will only average around 10% more performance in most existing games, so long as its not being held back by your CPU. That's not going to be noticeable enough to justify an upgrade.

To be a worthwhile upgrade from a 1060 3GB, you would likely want to look at a card that offers more performance than that. The newer GTX 1660 6GB should offer over 30% more performance than a 1060 3GB when not being limited by the CPU, and would probably be the minimum graphics upgrade that I would consider worthwhile.

Of course, in demanding games like Battlefield V, your CPU is what's holding back performance. Most games can still get along fairly well on a quad-core i5, but some, like Battlefield V, perform best on a processor with more available threads. Something like an i7-7700 or 7700K could likely plug into your motherboard, and in addition to offering higher clocks, their Hyperthreading would help performance in games that utilize more than 4 threads, but they are overpriced for what they have to offer at this point. At well over $300 new, or even around $250-$300 used, they are priced so high that you are probably better off replacing the motherboard so you can go with something else. There are a number of 6-core processors priced under $200 now, like the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 2600 and 2600X, or the 6-core/6-thread i5-9400F. The Ryzen 3600 will also be launching for $200 in a couple weeks, and the 3000-series is expected to bring around 15% more performance per clock compared to existing Ryzen processors, so you might want to wait a bit and see what those have to offer.