Super hot in my computer room/home bedroom - looking for suggestions to cool down..

[club27]

Super hot in my computer room/home bedroom - looking for suggestions to cool down..

here are my specs and the temps, I really need to bring something down or all of it, I have all this inside a dell xps case.

Would the hard drives be the best bet to go after?
New Case? Or other Solutions?

Thanks

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 @ 3.60GHz 114 °F
Kaby Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1496MHz (15-17-17-35)
Motherboard
MSI Z170M MORTAR (MS-7972) (U3E1) 97 °F
Graphics
DELL ST2310 (1920x1080@60Hz)
DELL E228WFP (1680x1050@60Hz)
DELL ST2420L (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (EVGA) 96 °F
Storage
1397GB Western Digital WDC WD15EARS-00MVWB0 (SATA) 87 °F
465GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500GB (SSD) 96 °F
2794GB TOSHIBA DT01ABA300 (SATA) 90 °F
2794GB Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 (SATA) 92 °F
7452GB Western Digital WDC WD80EZZX-11CSGA0 (SATA) 97 °F
232GB TOSHIBA External USB 3.0 USB Device (USB (SATA)) 87 °F

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[USAFRet]

Is the room hot, or is the PC hot?

Assuming the 'room' is hot...a new case or cooling system on the PC will make zero difference. The PC is generating the same amount of heat, and pumping it into the room.

 

[Traci_]

got two desktops that are in different rooms used for gaming and both rooms are warmer then any other in house, all your temps look good, i have ceiling fans in rooms with comp's and that has helped to move around some fresh air and keep doors open so fresh air can circulate. have had different cases over the years and they have kept temps lower but they were just moving the hot air out of case faster

 

[club27]

Is the room hot, or is the PC hot?

Assuming the 'room' is hot...a new case or cooling system on the PC will make zero difference. The PC is generating the same amount of heat, and pumping it into the room.

its the room, but if I had all the hard drives down to 50 degree wouldnt that make the room cooler?

 

[Darkbreeze]

AC? (Yes, I'm kidding. Well, sort of)

System can never cool below ambient room temperature, so if you lower the ambient room temperature you usually lower the PC temperature, to a degree. If the room is cool but the PC is not, THEN you have a cooling issue to solve. If it's 80°F in your room then the PC is never going to be very cool.

 

[club27]

Its on lol

 

[Darkbreeze]

Read it again ^^^^^. And if the AC is ON, and the room is still hot, then either your AC does not have enough cooling capacity or something is wrong with it.

 

[USAFRet]

Is the room hot, or is the PC hot?

Assuming the 'room' is hot...a new case or cooling system on the PC will make zero difference. The PC is generating the same amount of heat, and pumping it into the room.

its the room, but if I had all the hard drives down to 50 degree wouldnt that make the room cooler?

50 F?
You can't. Unless you're in a walk in cooler.

I think your AC is busted.

 

[Math Geek]

Is the room hot, or is the PC hot?

Assuming the 'room' is hot...a new case or cooling system on the PC will make zero difference. The PC is generating the same amount of heat, and pumping it into the room.

its the room, but if I had all the hard drives down to 50 degree wouldnt that make the room cooler?

if the drives were 50 degrees in the case, that means that the extra 30-40 degrees was simply moved out of the case. actually making a net temp gain for the room overall.

you need to be thinking of the room itself as a case that needs to have hot air moved out of it. some sort of exhaust from the room is what you need. pulling more hot air out of the pc case only makes the room hotter as none of the parts are going to make any less heat. you're simply changing where the heat is. they make those fans that go in a window that pulls air out of the room. that is likely a good way to vent the air. if it is winter and cold out, then simply opening the window a bit would let the air out as well.

otherwise, keep the door open and some sort of fan moving air around to keep it leaving the room and pulling cooler air in is all you can do. you can only lower the pc temps by using less power which means less capable parts overall.

 

[Darkbreeze]

you can only lower the pc temps by using less power which means less capable parts overall.

Or you can drop the overall room temperature by using a functional air conditioner that actually results in a room that is "not hot". In which case, the thermal values of the PC will drop as well since there will actually be cool air available to exchange heat from the PC to the room. If your AC DOES work correctly, and is simply lacking the necessary capacity for the square footage it is cooling, then you can get those portable single room AC units that do a fair job when used in conjunction with a whole house AC system.

But then you're adding some additional cost onto your monthly electricity bill as well.

 

[club27]

should I put my case door back on?

 

[Darkbreeze]

I've run my main rig both upstairs and downstairs, in the finished basement, which is typically 20 degrees F cooler than upstairs on any given day. It is directly reflected in my system temperatures, to the tune of about 15°F cooler without making any changes to the cooling configuration. Hot PC makes hot room hotter, yes. But cool room makes hot PC cooler, too.

 

[Darkbreeze]

should I put my case door back on?

You can never get lower than ambient temp, so if the system is too hot with the case panel off, it will be even hotter with the case panel on, no matter how fast you run the fans.

 

[boju]

Club27, are used to using fahrenheit or celcius? Your temps are warm idle 45c but certainly not hot hot.

Leave the case panel on so hot air moves in a controlled direction. An idea is to exhaust hot air out the window if possiible with a pedestal fan or some round flexible insulation duct taped to the exhaust fan grill and have it point to an open window.

Heat rises so having case lowest possible to floor can also help along with having your door open allowing fresh air to circulate.

 

[smorizio]

if you have central air in your home. check the air filters in the air handler make sure there not clogged. pick up a hand held temp checker test the air temp in your upstatis and down. if there a big split in temps then your house unit is not balance. lack of return air. if the temps from the ac are about the same and are higher then the temp that is set if your ac a few years old you may have a leak or a weak cap in the compressor outside. if the unit over 10 years old and uses r22 charge it be cheaper to use grant and rebate money to replace your system. r22 and 3 party replacments now can run over 100.00 a pound now. if your system has lost it charge it can be 300-700 just to recharge it and then look for leaks. some ac units that have used micro channel coils have had recalls due to leaks and class action lawsuits. google the model and vendor see if there any know defects. on some air handlers they may not use paper air filters but a washable unit. on the air handler and outside unit make sure there no dust/dirt on the coils. if there real dirty outsides pick up some cleaners and use your garden hose to clean the outside coils. if you have pets keep them away from the foam till it gone. with computer cooling....with dells first issue is lack of fans. a good gaming case with top and side fans for airflow will help. with hard drive cooling make sure you have air flowing over them and have a case that has spaces between them and there not touching. for cpu cooling a good after market cooler will help.

 

[stdragon]

If your PC and peripherals are consuming 1.5 kilowatts (1,500 watts) of energy, that means your DUMPING 1.5 Kilowatts of HEAT into the room. Yes, there's some minute loss in the form of EM, but that's all academic. It's basically no different than if instead of that PC, you're running a hair dryer; it uses about the same amount of energy.

Yes, I get that the 1.5 kilowatt figure is peak load. But the point still stands - for every watt of energy used, is the same amount of energy that needs to be removed from the room.

1. Get your AC inspected. Also ask about "air balancing" to ensure all rooms are being cooled properly with the right amount of air volume.

2. You could craft your own solution if you have a window. One of my friends mined bitcoin using ASIC units. They put out a lot of heat. His solution was rather then provide more cooling, he just vented and dumped the heat directly outside using a window dryer vent setup, a small squirrel cage fan, and kept all the equipment in a box connected to the duct.

Yes, it puts negative air pressure an causes more outside air to move into the home, but the Delta T of cooling outside air vs the air heated from mining usage was better on the electric bill.

 

[club27]

so my pc is just like 2 feet from the window, could I take one of the dryer vent hose things and connect from PC to Window?

 

[stdragon]

so my pc is just like 2 feet from the window, could I take one of the dryer vent hose things and connect from PC to Window?

That is entirely up to you.

If you're feeling crafty, roll your own solution. If you're hesitant at even contemplating this DIY project (careful planning, you don't want to deal with rain water and other problems.), don't bother. Admitidly, it's an extreme solution for an extreme problem.

I'm going to say for 99.999% of the population out there, just call an AC guy and have him do an inspection. Better to do it NOW than wait until the compressor dies in July (raises hand, happened to me) when all of them are booked up and writing their own checks for $$$$

 

[mjslakeridge]

Even though I have central air conditioning, in my recording studio control room I have 2 computers plus lots of other electronics running. The room is 10 degrees F hotter than where the thermostat is. I bought a portable room air conditioner unit. In the summer, I can cool the room with just this unit until about 2:00PM, when I will turn on the central A/C to help out.

 

[stdragon]

Yeah, the window AC units are nice, but two problems.

1. They consume a lot of energy. Easy to implement, but your electric bill will go up. Not a problem, just ought to be aware as an FYI.

2. The shared circuit might get overloaded. If it's behind a 20A breaker, it can handle 2,200 watts before it trips.

 

[mjslakeridge]

Mine is a 10,000 BTU unit. If I can run it to cool a 20 x 20 foot room for the morning and early afternoon, I save energy over running a 5 ton central unit to cool the entire second floor of my house. Mine is on a 15 AMP circuit, so if I print something on my printer, it doesn't trip the house's breaker, but the A/C unit has a built in breaker where it plugs into the wall, and it will turn off the compressor for a few minutes.

 

[stdragon]

So, a 700 watt window unit? Not bad. Just as an FYI, the built-in breaker is only good for AC unit itself. That way, if the compressor locks up / shorts out, the amp draw trips itself offline before it has a chance to pull many more apps at the breaker box.

It really depends on the electrical layout of the room/s. One room might have its own breaker, whereas three smaller bedrooms would share one 20a circuit. It obviously works for you, but I wouldn't dare run loaded gaming rig, monitor, a window AC unit, and then attempt to print from a laser printer (fuser pulls lots of amps, it's basically a curling iron). Inkjet printer? Yeah, you'd be in the clear.

 

[mjslakeridge]

I thought I calculated it uses 1,500 watts, but could be wrong. 120Volts here. Laser printer, so what you said makes sense.

 

[stdragon]

My bad. I'm off on wattage for 10K BTU. It's not 700, but about closer to 900 watts for most AC units in that range. Just wanted to make the correction.

 

[smorizio]

also to the thread starter if your hot room is upstairs go into the attic see how much insulation is there. if you own the home and there very little insulation up top then your upstairs will heat up during the day. there are grant money and energy rebates out there. start with your local gas and power comp for a free energy audit. then look online at us grants and rebates by state from the us government. there ones now for windows....insulation....replacing old ac units and replacing old oil heat with gas. Most local hardware stores now rent weekend blower for blown in isolation.