Question Surface Pro BSOD when starting. Not enough memory for factory reset.

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Hey guys,

When I start my Surface Pro I get BSOD. Safe mode also doesn't work. I tried to factory reset it but when I do it tells me there's not enough free memory on the HDD.

Before it crashed, I noticed that my C drive was using memory without me downloading something.

Any ideas?

Thanks
 
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gn842a

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Hey guys,


Before it crashed, I noticed that my C drive was using memory without me downloading something.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Well...assuming the hardware is all good there is the possibility that space on the C drive had been commandeered for nefarious purposes: storage for illegal downloads, bot attacks, that kind of thing.

You might revisit your wifi security. There have been instances where a desktop owner gets busted for porn downloads that were in fact executed by a neighbor who had access to the wifi.

And test all your ports at the "shields up!" utility at https://www.grc.com/intro.htm .

There are other more exotic things that I can think of but they are speculation on my part. Win 10 tries at all costs to tie you into the internet and various on line accounts. It seems likely you're going to have to reinstall OS on C drive again, if you do I suggest a LOCAL setup where you unplug from the ethernet cable before proceeding with the install, and systematically ignore Microsoft's efforts to persuade you that you'll have a "better experience" if you connect to an account on the web. You're half way there when for security verification they offer three local checks (name of your dog, etc) rather than hooking into an account that sends a text message (to allow you to get on to your own desktop!).

Assuming that you have your personal data files stored on a different drive you'll want to run it through at least two different AV checks.

There may be innocent explanations if you're a gamer for instance you may have inadvertently created a massive download related to recording a gaming experience or some other thing. I was surprised to see that my son had something like 35 gigs of game related Overwatch stuff on the upstairs computer. Fortunately the bulk of it is on the HDD. In any case the OS up there was comfortably lodged on a 128 gig SSD but when I looked at it again it was 90% full and showing a bright red bar. I mirrored it on to a 500 gig SSD just last night and things are looking better.

The probability of some of these sorts of things has to be assessed against the C: drive size and the kind of uses to which you put the computer. If you were economy minded and had a 128 gig SSD for the C drive or even 250 its not hard to see that it could fill up over time. But I have known people whose desktops had been turned into servers for use by bad guys.

Greg N
 

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Well...assuming the hardware is all good there is the possibility that space on the C drive had been commandeered for nefarious purposes: storage for illegal downloads, bot attacks, that kind of thing.

You might revisit your wifi security. There have been instances where a desktop owner gets busted for porn downloads that were in fact executed by a neighbor who had access to the wifi.

And test all your ports at the "shields up!" utility at https://www.grc.com/intro.htm .

There are other more exotic things that I can think of but they are speculation on my part. Win 10 tries at all costs to tie you into the internet and various on line accounts. It seems likely you're going to have to reinstall OS on C drive again, if you do I suggest a LOCAL setup where you unplug from the ethernet cable before proceeding with the install, and systematically ignore Microsoft's efforts to persuade you that you'll have a "better experience" if you connect to an account on the web. You're half way there when for security verification they offer three local checks (name of your dog, etc) rather than hooking into an account that sends a text message (to allow you to get on to your own desktop!).

Assuming that you have your personal data files stored on a different drive you'll want to run it through at least two different AV checks.

There may be innocent explanations if you're a gamer for instance you may have inadvertently created a massive download related to recording a gaming experience or some other thing. I was surprised to see that my son had something like 35 gigs of game related Overwatch stuff on the upstairs computer. Fortunately the bulk of it is on the HDD. In any case the OS up there was comfortably lodged on a 128 gig SSD but when I looked at it again it was 90% full and showing a bright red bar. I mirrored it on to a 500 gig SSD just last night and things are looking better.

The probability of some of these sorts of things has to be assessed against the C: drive size and the kind of uses to which you put the computer. If you were economy minded and had a 128 gig SSD for the C drive or even 250 its not hard to see that it could fill up over time. But I have known people whose desktops had been turned into servers for use by bad guys.

Greg N
Thanks for your reply. I will check those things out when I got it up and running again.

Any advice on how I can get it to work? Maybe install Windows again from a flash drive? Since factory reset doesn't work because of the memory.
 

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I tried to install Windows again with a USB but I can't get it to work because I can't get into the BIOS. It goes straight to the BSOD screen when I start it.
 

gn842a

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256 gb HDD? Is this an old build?

I think the prudent thing would be to consider a newer/larger replacement, maybe an SSD. I've seen 500 gig SSDs for $60. And 1 TB HDDs for $50 and even a little under.

If you need adapters for the sata power and data, I think those are still out there.....

Greg N
 

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256 gb HDD? Is this an old build?

I think the prudent thing would be to consider a newer/larger replacement, maybe an SSD. I've seen 500 gig SSDs for $60. And 1 TB HDDs for $50 and even a little under.

If you need adapters for the sata power and data, I think those are still out there.....

Greg N
In a Surface Pro, that would be a 256GB SSD in there currently.
This is not an old device.