Emanuel Elmo
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bigpinkdragon286 :
I don't pirate or illegally download things, but thanks for the assumption, Emanuel Elmo. I'm simply stating, if you are going to advertise something as being without limits, it should not have limits, whether those limits are arbitrary or based on good sound reasoning. It makes the advertisement blatantly false, or in other words, dishonest, or maybe even a lie. If you have ever dealt with the public much, you will soon realize that the honor system doesn't work well. So, maybe I should clarify with you a bit. I'm not against T-Mobile throttling the speeds of those it considers to be abusive - I'm against them advertising their service as unlimited, when clearly it's not.
bigpinkdragon286 :
So, what you're saying is, T-Mobile can market and sell you a service you can't use as advertised? If T-Mobile has set the connection speeds for their users so high that they can not adequately serve other consumers when those connections become saturated, who really caused the problem? The consumer is not in control of the network access speeds.
First you state that T-Mobile doesn't have a problem using data when and where you want, then you say they have a problem with saturating the connection. Umm, if you are transferring data, one would assume the connection, unless throttled, will run up to it's saturation point, always, which is the speed they have set your radio to transmit and receive on their network. So which is it? Do they care what you do with your connection and put limits on it, or don't they? Ultimately, they do care when and where you use data, and take actions against those who use more than what T-Mobile has determined to be reasonable. My only issue is with the use of the term unlimited, not with how T-Mobile is managing their network. When a downstream process begins, most ignorant users are never in charge of whether the connection becomes saturated, so why even bring that up? Downloads should take place at the highest rate available to minimize time on the network, but of course, there are always other variables to take into account. Holding the user accountable for things they don't necessarily have control over hardly makes sense.
Here's a valid question though, what makes one's want to view "TV on the way home" or "listen to music" more important or reasonable than the want of another user, (and don't bring up shady activities, as there are plenty of legitimate activities that can saturate a connection)? Are you arguing for, or against the consumption of large amounts of bandwidth by saying one should be able to casually stream video, which happens to be a large consumer of bandwidth?
First you state that T-Mobile doesn't have a problem using data when and where you want, then you say they have a problem with saturating the connection. Umm, if you are transferring data, one would assume the connection, unless throttled, will run up to it's saturation point, always, which is the speed they have set your radio to transmit and receive on their network. So which is it? Do they care what you do with your connection and put limits on it, or don't they? Ultimately, they do care when and where you use data, and take actions against those who use more than what T-Mobile has determined to be reasonable. My only issue is with the use of the term unlimited, not with how T-Mobile is managing their network. When a downstream process begins, most ignorant users are never in charge of whether the connection becomes saturated, so why even bring that up? Downloads should take place at the highest rate available to minimize time on the network, but of course, there are always other variables to take into account. Holding the user accountable for things they don't necessarily have control over hardly makes sense.
Here's a valid question though, what makes one's want to view "TV on the way home" or "listen to music" more important or reasonable than the want of another user, (and don't bring up shady activities, as there are plenty of legitimate activities that can saturate a connection)? Are you arguing for, or against the consumption of large amounts of bandwidth by saying one should be able to casually stream video, which happens to be a large consumer of bandwidth?
You are welcome for my assumption as people that usually pirate and feel free to download hoards of data from a cell provider feel exactly as you. My assumption stand and unless you can prove to me otherwise, you sir is the reason why T-mobile is doing what they are doing.
You also do not have proper guidelines or at least an honor system set up in your mind. Cause I read your comments and I start to laugh. I mean seriously laugh.
here is a definition of unlimited: not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
here is the definition of casual: not regular or permanent, in particular.
oh and just in-case, cause I know you will make an argument that extent can mean "content". Lets evaluate the definition of extent: the area covered by something.
do you even understand any of these. As you can clearly see, the definition of unlimited does not include "Content" So let me rephrase you twit. T-Mobile offers unlimited data of number, quantity, and or extent but does not offer unlimited data on content. Therefore there definition of unlimited and what they are offering consumers is spot on.
Your only problem now is that you can not eat gobs of data downloading your illegal music, movies, and porn.
I listen to pandora off of my Unlimited plan from t-mobile every day. I surface the net, I stream netflix, check e-mails, upload my quick edited photos to the cloud for clients, etc. Guess what, I never ever ever go over 16GB of data a month and guess what never did it get throttled. You want to know why? Cause I do not abuse my connection.
T-Mobile is in no where accountable to by your ISP. That is why you have TimeWarner, AT&T, Cox, Verizon, etc. Just because you may not like those services and choose to use your data from your phone as an ISP still does not entitle T-mobile to be your ISP because, and here is the kicker, THEY DO NOT ADVERTISE THEMSELVES AS ONE.
So get off of your high horse of your false advertising and re-evaluate your life and grow up and start to understand what certain words actually mean. Life is tough get a helmet.