Taking off side panel freezes pc

[Waltz]

I don't know if what you mean with outlet is this but

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Since when I unplug the power cord from the psu it still shows power could it be a problem with earth wiring?

Chances are that if you unplug all power cables to the system and power is still present, it is just charge from the capacitors in the circuits, in either the power supply unit itself or the motherboard. I would unplug the power supply, and wait 5 or 10 minutes and then retest for power to allow the components to discharge.

There is no way that there can be power present if all power cables are disconnected unless you have a hidden battery of some form in the system.

TL;DR: Unplug the power and test for power again in 5 or 10 minutes!

Tried that and you were right. I waited around 20 minutes and tested it and shows no signs of power on the motherboard screws.

 

[Brucey_Bonus]

Tried that and you were right. I waited around 20 minutes and tested it and shows no signs of power on the motherboard screws.

Well as far as I know, there should be no power on the motherboard screws as they are connected to the computer case chassis which would also become live when energised, (which explains why there would be faults as you touch the case and ground it), so I would just try and locate any possible power cables that may be touching the case in any way.

Any unused molex cables from the power supply unit or any other auxiliary power cables for that matter contacting the case?

If you have a non-modular power supply unit there is a chance you may have unused power cables!

 

[clutchc]

Since i don't have one of those testers I disassembled the outlet and the earth wire isn't there. After all the outlet has earth connection but it isn't connected. So should I assume that is the problem? The only thing strange is that I had my old pc in this same spot and I never had this issue.

The issue may return again if the power outlet is not properly grounded. Without a earth ground, you will get all sorts of weird issues like that.. not to mention it being unsafe. If the ground (or earth as it is called in your part of the world) is in the outlet box but not connected, and you feel up to it, just connect it to the electrical outlet properly.

Here in the States, that is required by the National Electrical Code.

 

[Waltz]

Now a days it is also required in here for new houses but since my house is 50 years old back there they didn't even knew what that was. I have a part of the house that was restored and has ground connections so I'll start for there.

 

[Waltz]

Tried that and you were right. I waited around 20 minutes and tested it and shows no signs of power on the motherboard screws.

Well as far as I know, there should be no power on the motherboard screws as they are connected to the computer case chassis which would also become live when energised, (which explains why there would be faults as you touch the case and ground it), so I would just try and locate any possible power cables that may be touching the case in any way.

Any unused molex cables from the power supply unit or any other auxiliary power cables for that matter contacting the case?

If you have a non-modular power supply unit there is a chance you may have unused power cables!

My case has rubber feet maybe that's why the motherboard screws have power since the case would be isolated to the ground?

 

[Brucey_Bonus]

My case has rubber feet maybe that's why the motherboard screws have power since the case would be isolated to the ground?

Even though the case will have rubber feet to prevent electrical connection to earth, I still do not think the isolated chassis itself should be powered, as this will mean you become the connection to earth as you touch the energised chassis!

I don't feel any electricity from my computer case when it is operational despite having a good connection to earth, but I don't think the voltages of the electronic components are high enough to allow for sensation.

But you still have a leakage of power to the case!

 

[Waltz]

I noticed something. In my pc case, there is a small bracket that helps supporting the motherboard. But while installing the psu, the propper place for it to stay forced the bracket up. Could the bracket be touching the motherboard too much causing some kind of power leak?

 

[Waltz]

There is another thing. When I built my pc, I couldn't get the motherboard to correctly fit the i/o shield and the last ports (ps2 ports) are a bit off angle. Could also the motherboard be mounted unproperly?

 

[clutchc]

There is another thing. When I built my pc, I couldn't get the motherboard to correctly fit the i/o shield and the last ports (ps2 ports) are a bit off angle. Could also the motherboard be mounted unproperly?

Without seeing the situation first hand, it would be hard to say regarding either situation. Also check that none of those little bendable tabs on the I/O shield could be poking into one of the USB ports. That has happened to me a couple times.

 

[Waltz]

Sorry I took a while to answer but i've been having some issues with my internet connection these days. I checked the bendable tabs on the I/O and they don't seem to be inside the usb ports. I've been researching and I found out that I missed one screw on the motherboard assembly because I didn't had any mounts left and that screw hole actually has some bare metal in it. I searched the motherboard box and I found one mb mount that came with it and I didn't saw it. Could that be part of the issue?

 

[Brucey_Bonus]

Sorry I took a while to answer but i've been having some issues with my internet connection these days. I checked the bendable tabs on the I/O and they don't seem to be inside the usb ports. I've been researching and I found out that I missed one screw on the motherboard assembly because I didn't had any mounts left and that screw hole actually has some bare metal in it. I searched the motherboard box and I found one mb mount that came with it and I didn't saw it. Could that be part of the issue?

It would certainly be worth it to try!

 

[clutchc]

Sorry I took a while to answer but i've been having some issues with my internet connection these days. I checked the bendable tabs on the I/O and they don't seem to be inside the usb ports. I've been researching and I found out that I missed one screw on the motherboard assembly because I didn't had any mounts left and that screw hole actually has some bare metal in it. I searched the motherboard box and I found one mb mount that came with it and I didn't saw it. Could that be part of the issue?

I doubt it. But again, w/o seeing the situation I'm only guessing. There shouldn't be any "metal" in the empty hole, though. Unless you are referring to the threaded standoff beneath it. But it is always a good idea to use all the mtg. holes provided by the MB manufacturer. They mtg. screws also act as a grounding connection to the chassis.

 

[Waltz]

I want to thank you for your patience with this problem. Soon as I have time I will disassemble the pc and install the missing motherboard screw. If the problem pressists I guess I'll just take it to a pc store to see what they think. (btw sorry for the delay but my internet connection still with issues)

 

[clutchc]

No problem...lol. I'm always here.

 

[Waltz]

So today a electrician came here and installed proper grounded plugs. Guess what problem solved no more power in the case. Thank you all for you're patience and advice.

 

[clutchc]

Glad to hear you took care of a potentially dangerous situation.