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Hello
I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows what
is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?

My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
 
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Asestar wrote:
> Hello
> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows
> what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
>
> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?

Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating max
temp is 55° C.
 
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Bingo.. There are 2 harddrives in system. A WesternDigital 1200JB, 7200rpm
8mb cache, that runs about 40'C max.
Other one is Seagate 5400rpm,2mb,40 GB which runs about 44'C max. I guess
it's not that bad.


"ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
> Asestar wrote:
> > Hello
> > I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows
> > what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
> >
> > My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
>
> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating max
> temp is 55° C.
>
>
 
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Asestar wrote:
> Bingo.. There are 2 harddrives in system. A WesternDigital 1200JB,
> 7200rpm 8mb cache, that runs about 40'C max.
> Other one is Seagate 5400rpm,2mb,40 GB which runs about 44'C max. I
> guess it's not that bad.
>

Interesting that the slower Seagate runs hotter. I'm sure the max temp
spec is very similar for the Seagate, and the WD (I have the same drive)
is well within spec. Of course, it never hurts to cool them even more,
but it's not necessary.


> "ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
> news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
>> Asestar wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone
>>> knows what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
>>>
>>> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
>>
>> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating
>> max temp is 55° C.
 
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The cooler you keep them (to a point) the longer they will last. I see it
all the time in the field. The drives that run hot are the first to go
belly up. If you have two drives together in a cage you better have a good
backup.

DaveL


"ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
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> Asestar wrote:
> > Bingo.. There are 2 harddrives in system. A WesternDigital 1200JB,
> > 7200rpm 8mb cache, that runs about 40'C max.
> > Other one is Seagate 5400rpm,2mb,40 GB which runs about 44'C max. I
> > guess it's not that bad.
> >
>
> Interesting that the slower Seagate runs hotter. I'm sure the max temp
> spec is very similar for the Seagate, and the WD (I have the same drive)
> is well within spec. Of course, it never hurts to cool them even more,
> but it's not necessary.
>
>
> > "ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
> >> Asestar wrote:
> >>> Hello
> >>> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone
> >>> knows what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
> >>>
> >>> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
> >>
> >> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating
> >> max temp is 55° C.
>
>
 
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"Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
news:xZzgc.79974$BD3.9355685@juliett.dax.net...
> Hello
> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows what
> is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
>
> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
>

My two Hitachi drives read HD0 26c and HD1 25c but I doubt that you have a
problem. I have a Coolermaster case where two fans blow over my hard drives.
 
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Dave,

Would you say the 'two in a cage' configuration life reduction problem
is from heat or from vibration?

Seems like the newer drives vibrate much less then those of just a few
years ago. If the problem is from vibration then perhaps it is less
of a problem these days?

Forrest

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/


On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:15:24 -0700, "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net>
wrote:

< snip >
> If you have two drives together in a cage you better have a good
>backup.

< snip >
 
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:33 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:

>Hello
>I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows what
>is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?

>My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?

When both my ' IBM Deathstars ' went in the same 6 months I had to
re-buy. I decided that :

- I would only buy two [ not three ] platter drives
- I would only buy drives with a three year warranty
- I would sacrifice speed [ 10k ] for longevity [ 72k ]
- I would fit coolers to the chipset [ not radiator ] side

The drives are cool, not even warm to the touch, as near silent as can
be. The coolers I run at 7volts, reducing the speed and CFM and noise
but clearly they ' work ' very very well and add only a tiny % cost to
the price of this expensive and critical component.

Coolers :
http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=17320&cat=&page=1
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Other_Coolers_57.html
Drives :
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614C.htm
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Samsung.html
 
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<borolad@myowseintheboro.org> wrote in message news:01g9809g4ub1f3rfm9qugdmn238l8mvu5m@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:33 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
> . n o> wrote:
>
> >Hello
> >I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows what
> >is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
>
> >My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?

Some hard drive specs are misleading. While the spec might
allow operating temps in excess of 40C, one is almost assured
of premature failure. Anything over 40C is too warm.

> When both my ' IBM Deathstars ' went in the same 6 months I had to
> re-buy. I decided that :
>
> - I would only buy two [ not three ] platter drives
> - I would only buy drives with a three year warranty
> - I would sacrifice speed [ 10k ] for longevity [ 72k ]
> - I would fit coolers to the chipset [ not radiator ] side
>
> The drives are cool, not even warm to the touch, as near silent as can
> be. The coolers I run at 7volts, reducing the speed and CFM and noise
> but clearly they ' work ' very very well and add only a tiny % cost to
> the price of this expensive and critical component.

Seagate X15's are awesome (and quiet) drives, if SCSI is an
option. I've had six running for almost four years now, none of
them have failed yet.

Rick
 
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I was thinking heat build up inside the cage from the drives. I don't know
how vibration would figure into it. My guess is vibration is not a factor
on drive longevity.

DaveL


"- HAL9000" <gumpy@mail.org> wrote in message
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> Dave,
>
> Would you say the 'two in a cage' configuration life reduction problem
> is from heat or from vibration?
>
> Seems like the newer drives vibrate much less then those of just a few
> years ago. If the problem is from vibration then perhaps it is less
> of a problem these days?
>
> Forrest
>
> Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
> http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:15:24 -0700, "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> < snip >
> > If you have two drives together in a cage you better have a good
> >backup.
>
> < snip >
>
 
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> The drives are cool, not even warm to the touch, as near silent as can
> be. The coolers I run at 7volts, reducing the speed and CFM and noise
> but clearly they ' work ' very very well and add only a tiny % cost to
> the price of this expensive and critical component.

How did you lower the voltage?
 
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:17:32 GMT, "Asestar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t
.. n o> wrote:

>> The drives are cool, not even warm to the touch, as near silent as can
>> be. The coolers I run at 7volts, reducing the speed and CFM and noise
>> but clearly they ' work ' very very well and add only a tiny % cost to
>> the price of this expensive and critical component.

>How did you lower the voltage?

http://www.cpemma.co.uk/7volt.html

make sure to check your fans will ' spin up ' at that voltage
BoroLad
 
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Anything over 37 °C is too hot and your HDD manufacturer will not accept it
for refound if damaged. SMART system records these thermal peaks and 37 °C
is the upper margin. I also believe everything over 37 °C is a death
contract for your HDD. Make your computer case properly cooled and also your
HDD if it's running hot (maybe Hardcano 6 from Thermaltake?).

To those fanatics with 55 °C on HDD: Are you completely insane???

"ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
> Asestar wrote:
> > Hello
> > I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone knows
> > what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
> >
> > My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
>
> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating max
> temp is 55° C.
>
>
 
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John Smith wrote:
> Anything over 37 °C is too hot and your HDD manufacturer will not
> accept it for refound if damaged. SMART system records these thermal
> peaks and 37 °C is the upper margin. I also believe everything over
> 37 °C is a death contract for your HDD. Make your computer case
> properly cooled and also your HDD if it's running hot (maybe Hardcano
> 6 from Thermaltake?).
>
> To those fanatics with 55 °C on HDD: Are you completely insane???

What are you talking about? Did you actually *read* the post? Take a
look here:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=704&p_created=1037222945



> "ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
> news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
>> Asestar wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone
>>> knows what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
>>>
>>> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
>>
>> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating
>> max temp is 55° C.
 
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Thanks ICee. After check with both Seagate and WD websites, i found out what
is danger temp limit for my drives:

For WD1200Jb, 120G: -5'C -> 55'C (so my 40-41'C is ok)
For ST340810A, 40GB: 0'C -> 65'C (hence 42-44'C is normal)

Further more, I have made extra air vent (uncovering a 2,5" bay, under
floppy drive), directly above the 40GB drive. I can touch the top metal
surfice of drive if i put my fingers in it.
It should help dissipate more heat, since this old 5200rpm drive runs hotter
than the faster 7200rpm WD hdd.
120GB hdd is mounted further below the 40Gb, with space for 1 hdd between
them. This should prove effective.

Thanks for all replies, I am now pretty satisfied.


"ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
news:H_6dnQIIqtpCjhbdRVn-uQ@adelphia.com...
> John Smith wrote:
> > Anything over 37 °C is too hot and your HDD manufacturer will not
> > accept it for refound if damaged. SMART system records these thermal
> > peaks and 37 °C is the upper margin. I also believe everything over
> > 37 °C is a death contract for your HDD. Make your computer case
> > properly cooled and also your HDD if it's running hot (maybe Hardcano
> > 6 from Thermaltake?).
> >
> > To those fanatics with 55 °C on HDD: Are you completely insane???
>
> What are you talking about? Did you actually *read* the post? Take a
> look here:
>
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=704&
p_created=1037222945
>
>
>
> > "ICee" <icee@deadpeople.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:T9udnZhEV80xdB_dRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
> >> Asestar wrote:
> >>> Hello
> >>> I hear a lot debate about cpu and system temps. But does anyone
> >>> knows what is maximum safe temperature for harddrive?
> >>>
> >>> My drives are getting 40'C and 44'C peak. Is it ok or too hot?
> >>
> >> Don't know what drive you have, but Western Digital drive operating
> >> max temp is 55° C.
>
>
 
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Asestar wrote:
> Thanks ICee. After check with both Seagate and WD websites, i found
> out what is danger temp limit for my drives:
>
> For WD1200Jb, 120G: -5'C -> 55'C (so my 40-41'C is ok)
> For ST340810A, 40GB: 0'C -> 65'C (hence 42-44'C is normal)

Interesting that the Seagate can go up to 65° C.

> Further more, I have made extra air vent (uncovering a 2,5" bay, under
> floppy drive), directly above the 40GB drive. I can touch the top
> metal surfice of drive if i put my fingers in it.
> It should help dissipate more heat, since this old 5200rpm drive runs
> hotter than the faster 7200rpm WD hdd.
> 120GB hdd is mounted further below the 40Gb, with space for 1 hdd
> between them. This should prove effective.
>
> Thanks for all replies, I am now pretty satisfied.

Sounds good. Thanks for the update, and you're welcome. :)
 
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