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Actually, I think China wins this round. One more 'Western influence' out of the way and less money for Google. And it's only a 'moral win' for 80% of the people in the United States who think they know better than everybody else (but still buy products made in China everyday).
 
[citation][nom]Agges[/nom]Something is going to hit the fan soon it seems..And in branding terms Google is not losing on its decision, it is gaining market shares in the West due to taking a stance[/citation]
I don't know how much more market share Google will gain, but this kind of move definitely won't hurt Google here in the west. I wonder how long before China blocks the mainland from Google Hong Kong.
 
Yay for free speech however keep in mind that google once not to long ago accepted the strict rules enforced by the chinese government ... google has a very small market penetration (the figures i read on the internet are between 4 and 16%) thus running their servers in china is costing them money and gaining them nothing.

Stopping the censorship they them self enforced for the past few years wins them a lot of goodwill and gives them on paper the perfect reason to leave china. Google leaves not because they suddenly came to their senses and stopped censorship they left because they no longer wanted to waste money on a market they can not penetrate for a multitude of reasons number one being that people are creatures of habit and dont change search engines often.

omnimodis78:

If by CCP you mean the USSR or CCCP (former soviet union) either you dont know who was in this union or the people of china will soon revolt and strike down on a a union that has fell apart since 1991
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]omnimodis78:If by CCP you mean the USSR or CCCP (former soviet union) either you dont know who was in this union or the people of china will soon revolt and strike down on a a union that has fell apart since 1991[/citation]

You could have seen from the context what he meant.. CCCP is dead, but CCP is not 😉

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

Anyway.. thumbs up Google
 
This is pretty dang interesting. What is next Google? Google branded clothes? Also where in the heck is your Google Branded laptop. I have been waiting for a while to buy a laptop from you guys.
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]omnimodis78:If by CCP you mean the USSR or CCCP (former soviet union) either you dont know who was in this union or the people of china will soon revolt and strike down on a a union that has fell apart since 1991[/citation]

Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I think he meant Chinese Communist Party, not Союз Советских Социалистических Республик.
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]omnimodis78:If by CCP you mean the USSR or CCCP (former soviet union) either you dont know who was in this union or the people of china will soon revolt and strike down on a a union that has fell apart since 1991[/citation]
The Communist Party of China (CPC), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) - I use CCP out of habit, but I think you could have very easily researched what CCP means before you pointed that out.
 
Congrats to Google for making a stand.

I just hope the Australian PM Kevin Rudd and Senator Stephen "I wish we were like China" Conroy takes note that Google is more than willing to take the gloves off were we to see the mandatory Australian Censorship/Filter become law [we'd = China 2.0 IMO X( ].
 
I think its weird that apearently no one reads all the posts as you are the 3th to correct me on this even though I. Responded to the first correction stating it was my bad since I only did a quick define: google search and asumed he forgot a c ... normally I would not bother to waste another post on it however I think it shows a lot that none of the replies even so much as hinted to the part where I was being serious ... don't mmind if you or any one agrees or not but I do kinda mind a world of indifference where people prefer to battle for being right when some one mistakes them but at the same time hardly any one showws the same spirit when it comes to defending their view on the google vs china thing or to some extend capitalism vs socialism/communism since google made a buisyness call I for one would be intersted in any thing any one here has to say about that
 
Any chance Google can threaten to leave Australia so our idiot Government abandons it's filtering plans as they clearly want to do more than just stop child porn which by the way I wholeheartedly agree with, just not the method our Government wants to implement.
 
[citation][nom]hemelskonijn[/nom]I think its weird that apearently no one reads all the posts as you are the 3th to correct me on this even though I. Responded to the first correction stating it was my bad since I only did a quick define: google search and asumed he forgot a c ... normally I would not bother to waste another post on it however I think it shows a lot that none of the replies even so much as hinted to the part where I was being serious ... don't mmind if you or any one agrees or not but I do kinda mind a world of indifference where people prefer to battle for being right when some one mistakes them but at the same time hardly any one showws the same spirit when it comes to defending their view on the google vs china thing or to some extend capitalism vs socialism/communism since google made a buisyness call I for one would be intersted in any thing any one here has to say about that[/citation]
Pardon me brother, but you corrected me so it was to be expected that I'd address it regardless of how many people already pointed your misunderstanding out to you. It seems you're the kind of person who takes a very defensive stance on things. This is a forum, and if 20 people after me choose to correct you then you should accept that or maybe you're best not to contribute here. Not to mention, it's rather odd that you'd raise an invalid point and then expect people, especially the person you wanted to correct, to not address it. Seriously.
 
I raised a very valid point and will raise it once more!
Seriously, i am not defensive in particular i just think its weird that on a tech site no one seems to understand a conditional statement.
I never wanted to correct any one thus you really should learn to read better.
If the condition is met go whine all you want if not then stop being a jerk and write about china google and what not.
Those are all interesting topics my trow at being funny in a conditional statement however is not really a good topic of conversation.
 
Ohw and please do react on the points i raised in my original post on this topic ... tell me how are they invalid ?, do realize any point i was making i was making in the part BEFORE i mention your name.
 
I have mixed ideas on this issue. Yes, Google took a stand, and made a statement about censorship. By backing out completely the Chinese people lost out on a force that would assist in breaking down the censorship stranglehold on the country. In the long run it is not Google's fight. It is the responsibility of the Chinese people to determine the value of free speech, and fight for it. I hope that in leaving the country in a grandiose fashion a message was sent to the Chinese populace. "See what your government is keeping from you? Do you like it?"
 
It's all about money.
How come for some good 4 years they(Google) could "censorship" and all
of a sudden they can't any more?
The China server simply didn't make any money but loose some like Bing is at the moment.
While it won't get Google more money it sure as hell won't loose any.
And on the bright side it will make Joe admire Google because they are so
"cool", and they "care" about human rights and ....
Bull....
I have to admit that the move is intelligent.
They get rid of the money loosing "monster" and get a big plus
on the "perception" of Google as the "good guy".
Anyway, a big THUMBS DOWN for Google for trying to manipulate us.
 
I hope more of china steals from and rejects the outside world. more corporate entities will find china too hot to handle and simply move along:)
 
If you happened to read Deathly Hallows, you might remember the part where all the good guys are traveling around in little groups, and one group is busy putting on a radio show. They keep changing the frequency and the time, but astute listeners can usually find it.

Wonder if Google could do something like that. You have to know or guess where the IP address is (or domain, or whatever), but if you find it then you get full uncensored access to Google from inside China. And Google can just keep switching the address each time the CCP discover and censor it.

Or what if something akin to the Folding@Home install included a proxy, so that any of millions of computers could be used by the Chinese to access Google or any of numerous other uncensored sites. As someone wrote (and I misquote b.c. it's late and I'm too lazy to scroll up), "You can't block the internet. It's too big."
 
Teramedia: there is a system kinda like your folding at home idea and its called thor it uses open proxy's and rotates proxy's all the time however thor is extremely slow and to be able to surf the web witout any knowing where you are surfing you need to use encryption even when you use thor the thing is that like in mmost privacy cases the counter argument is"why use encryption and or thor" if you have nothing to hide" you become suspect by using it. Its like random checks in stores to bust shoplifters if you decline to open your bag you will get in way more trouble even if you just didn't want any one to see your adult dipers or gay porn.
 
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