Brandon_29 :
This is a great move by MS. Pushing out 4k Blu-Rays this quickly will be a huge selling point. Right now UHD players alone cost as much as this console. I am not a big console gamer, but I am heavily considering buying this for the player alone. It will depend a little bit on how the reviews are using it as a player. The PS3 was an excellent blu-ray player and helped push the format. I am hoping the same will be true of the next half.gen consoles.
PS4 Neo being late to this game will hurt sales for sure. The advantage lies in timing when it comes to 4K and HDR. This time the advantage seems to be in MS's court. Much to my dismay since I like the PS4 much more than XBOX One, but no harm in owning both
There are not many on the market yet and you can get one for $280 on amazon. There are supposed to be a slew of cheap ones by xmas. They will be much cheaper in 3 months and far below xbox. While it's good they're including HDR, it's kind of self defeating to attach features that only work on win10. That kills it for me if I was even pondering a console again and I'm not, at least not from sony/msft/nintendo. Maybe nvidia for android on rev2 of their shield tv console and just to get a great android experience (or streaming from pc gpu) on tv. Consoles offer nothing vs my pc other than VERY few exclusives. I hope NV's rev2 includes at least a bluray drive or a much bigger unit for 80-125w power (slap two 14nm socs in there this time NV! with HBM2 or GDDR5x etc and I'll buy! BEAT current consoles). I would buy for either of those options or both
I have no need for 4K disc player for a while anyway if ever. I'll buy one when I can burn a disc for under a buck I guess (just for the extra room and less discs to store rips). I can get the content without the disc already (netflix etc), so no point in buying for THAT feature IMHO yet. I would NEVER buy a movie for $20+ and that's what they seem to go for...LOL. Discs to me aren't worth $5 these days. Storing them is a real PITA (learned from my dvd days...LOL).
I'd pay $350 for an xbox sized superpowered android box, but I'll pass again if it isn't over 75w. I want a real 1080p android vulkan box that competes with xbox1/ps4 easily. That's the only console in my future. It should be easy to do with new mem tech, die shrinks etc compared to what current gen started with and their upgrades aren't for the game side (no exclusives they said for those new boxes). If they go low-end again I'm out until rev3...ROFL. I don't think the new console will spur sales of xbox much just for a HDR player. They made a mistake not making it more gaming capable. Of course if you wanted one to begin with, it's clearly an upgrade, but sony has sold 4x so I'd think most will wait to see their rev2 shortly as far more gaming devs will aim there first with that many more users. If NV puts out a comparable android box for xmas I think xbox is over, as most have clearly opted for sony this gen (80% of the market) and many want a different side (android/vulkan) like me since PC gets most of what consoles have already and PC gaming is already #1 by far and growing fast. IE, 2yrs ago 61% of NV's revenue came from their top end gaming gpus and it's obviously more now since 1080 is the fastest selling top end gpu ever. No doubt 1070 sells just as well or better.
As an example of people moving to high-end, AMD 480 sold 2000 on day one at OCuk. GTX 1080 sold 1000 on day one. Not sure what they sold of 1070, but it is hard to believe 1080+1070 likely equal the 480's sales. Unfortunately AMD went for low margin product first yet again. I expect a crappy quarter despite the new gpu in a few days. All of the current gpus in those 480's were sold before this Q ended so it will be a bad sign for AMD if they don't make a profit with all of them on it. These consoles aren't helping AMD much either unfortunately as far more people seem to get that things are far better on a PC (as gpu sales trends show, people are massively buying above $300). AMD needs 50-60% margins, not 30%. I expect another $50-100mil loss. A new xbox won't help that.
🙁 Vega and Zen should have come first! Both probably got pushed off because of a new xbox shrink design needed to be done (for paltry 10-15% margins no doubt again). Management needs to go yet again at AMD. They need someone who will go HIGH MARGIN FIRST, and always. They got rid of Dirk, the only guy who seemed to get this at AMD for the last decade and they ditched him because of it...LOL. They've been diluting their shares for a decade too, now up to 793mil outstanding. Ouch.
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