The 80+PSU brands

[Leigh_2]

I hear different from one thing to another. What are some good PUS brands and I hear that 80+Platinum is good. I just have a Geforce 1050Ti video card, a ADM-fx 8350

 

[Frazzled Flamingo]

with your budget 80+ platinum is crazy, those power supplies will be about the same price as your gpu, look at evga or corsair and aim for 80+ gold

 

[Samat]

80+ is a certification for energy efficiency of the PSU not a brand, 80+ Platinum is the second highest certification for a PSU. You can read more about it in this wiki article. For quality PSU brands look for Seasonic and EVGA for example, also Corsair from RM series and up is rated top tier. You can check this forum post on tom's for example. EVGA G2 series is a decently priced quality PSU for example, you could propably do with a 650W unit and have some headroom there.

Edit. And like said above, if you go for PSUs rated higher then gold then you will be paying a lot of premium for those units.

 

[helpstar]

look for 500W PSU 80+ bronze, silver or gold
warranty at least 5 years
evga, xfx, seasonic, superflower, ocz, be quiet!, rosewill, corsair

 

[fourseven]

corsair : RMx series, CMx series, HX series, etc
evga : G2 series, G3 series ( PSU made by super flower )
seasonic : G series, X Series
XFX : Xtr series ( PSU made by seasonic )
Super Flower : Leadex series
FSP : Hydro G Series
Antec : Edge Series
Rosewill : Photon series, Glacier series.
Etc.

Those is good PSU brand.

 

[Leigh_2]

with your budget 80+ platinum is crazy, those power supplies will be about the same price as your gpu, look at evga or corsair and aim for 80+ gold

Out of all of the 80+, what pulls more watts from the wall and I hear that the less ones just wast watt and the good 80+ will save energy. Witch ones save more energy and less wattage. Oh u figure it out, this the first time i heard of 80+

 

[Samat]

with your budget 80+ platinum is crazy, those power supplies will be about the same price as your gpu, look at evga or corsair and aim for 80+ gold

Out of all of the 80+, what pulls more watts from the wall and I hear that the less ones just wast watt and the good 80+ will save energy. Witch ones save more energy and less wattage. Oh u figure it out, this the first time i heard of 80+

Check the link on my post, efficiency ratings for each 80+ certification level are explained there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

Platinum and Titanium level cost a LOT.

 

[Leigh_2]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "80+ gold or the platinum"

They tell me to get 80+gold is good.
There's is also platinum as well.
Do any other the two save on energy. Somewhere i read that watts just get lost, but with 80+ gold or platinum saves energy. DO they even save on energy bills. I just looking for one that saves the most.

 

[Samat]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "80+ gold or the platinum"

They tell me to get 80+gold is good.
There's is also platinum as well.
Do any other the two save on energy. Somewhere i read that watts just get lost, but with 80+ gold or platinum saves energy. DO they even save on energy bills. I just looking for one that saves the most.

Yes they save some energy, but with the increased price of platinum/titanium units you'll propably never get it back in your energy bill.

Edit. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7474/analyzing-power-use-80-plus-bronze-vs-platinum they tested it here between bronze and platinum unit. Remember the numbers are for if you are running that load 24/7 on your computer, so it's the best case scenario of how much you would save.

 

[Chugalug_]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "The higher, the better PSU"

So, is it the higher the 80+, the faster the pc loads

I read about Watts Lost in 80+
if it can be answer, between 500w to 600w, how many of watt will be lost.

Nope 80 plus is just an efficiency rating.

short answer. no.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2012/august/80-plus-platinum-what-does-it-mean-and-what-is-the-benefit-to-me

SR-71 is correct While it will have no bearing on how FAST it loads, it will have a bearing on your electric bill, like $5 a year! (wild guess forgive me). You'll probably enjoy less heat generated thanks to the higher efficiency creating less heat (waste) for your room as a more noticeable difference. The big deal is having a power supply powerful enough to not be straining to carry the load you have on it. Then, as a secondary, you can look at the efficiency rating.

No, it refers to the power efficiency of the power supply.
PSUs don't affect performance at all, just what hardware it supports.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "PSU Watts lost"

I read about Watts Lost here http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2012/august/80-plus-platinum-what-does-it-mean-and-what-is-the-benefit-to-me

between 500w to 600w, how many of watt will be lost. 80+plus gold and platinum

Gold will lose about 10% of its input wattage, and platinum about 8%, but that changes throughout the range of output depending on your load.

I'm not understanding your concern here. The wattage lost is just the difference between the input and what it outputs. That lost wattage is wasted energy basically but for the most part adds up to a dollar or two a year on your energy bill.

I think by "watts lost" you are referring to efficiency. Power is supplied to the computer. Where does it come from? The power plant in your city. Only problem is, as it makes its way to the computer, some of that power goes to waste and is lost as heat. This particularly happens inside the power supply, certain components will heat up (power = heat).

The exact efficiency of a power supply depends on the exact model. The 80+ certification is a general certification that will tell you if one power supply is more efficient than another. An 80+ certified power supply does not necessarily have 80% efficiency. If your PSU is under very minimal or great stress, it will usually be less efficient. So efficiency is not a constant but a variable property of the electronics.

The equation for efficiency is:

Power out is how much power the computer is using. So if your graphics card using 100W, the CPU 50W, and everything else 25W, the power out would be 175W. Power in will be higher, though. As power travels from the power plant, some of it is wasted. So if there is 88% efficiency in this scenario, power input will be ~199W.

There are two adverse effects of having a poor efficiency:

1) The power supply gets hotter. This may cause the internal components to get hotter which can shorten its lifespan. Or if you're the type of person you may like low efficiency so you have a free room heater in the Winter.

2) It costs your electricity bill a bit more money

I say "a bit more money" for a reason. The gains are very small for an average consumer, and if your parents pay the bill, who really cares anyway, am I right? But in general there are a lot more aspects to research into instead of just efficiency. Efficiency is just the bottom of the mountain, I suggest you ask experts for a power supply recommendation, as they have knowledge of the additional properties of power supplies.

 

[CountMike]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "Gold it is..."

So, i go for the 80+ gold for now and maybe later upgrade depends on how good the gold is.
I been looking on Amazon.com which is where i shop at a lot and also at Newegg.com since they had more pc parts then Amazon.

One thing, What is the difference in ATX and ATX12. I just wanna make sure that i get the right on. My old pc i had over ten years ago and now gone had a ATX psu.

Bronze, gold etc. are just efficiency ratings, have nothing to do with anything else.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "adding the PSU watts."

Since, that the video card and the CPU is the largest hardware, do i just add the both of them together to calculate the watts for the psu.

There are a few other things to consider. Try using a power supply calculator, I'm not sure which one is the best but here is one.
http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Or, better still, just post your full system specs (start a new thread) and ask experts here what PSU they recommend because it's not simply a case of calculating the total wattage.

The GPU amps requirement is also important, as is the make & model of the PSU since some are to be avoided.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "adding PC Hardware"

2 x Thermaltake Riing 14 Series High Static Pressure 140mm Circular Blue LED Ring Case/Radiator Fan

2 xThermaltake RIING 120mm Blue LED Ultra Quiet High Airflow Computer Case Fan, Twin Pack CL-F047-PL12BU-A

2 xZalman 80mm and 120mm black fan included with the Zalman case

AMD-FX series 8370

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan

1 single EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 04G-P4-6253-KR, 4GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)

ADATA XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1866W8G10-DR

What would be a good size to this all plus a little more

After using a power supply calculator online, I got 516W over at Newegg.com and 434W at pcpartpickerm.

So, what i'm trying to say is, the highest i got on the power supply calculator was the 516W over on Newegg.com So, a 600W PSU should do it.

Are you building a system? If so, I wouldn't go with an FX rig. I am not totally sure what you are talking about regarding size, either.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "Pro PC builders"

People who builds computer desktops, when they get ready to build one since they been at it for more then once, how do they know what PSU to get and how much watts to get on it. Do they look at the Largest hardware like the video card and CPU or what

Pcpartpicker is a good website to check how much power your computer will take, Then you look for a power supply a bit above it with 80% efficiency and get a tier 1 PSU, even though anything t3+ is good enough http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I'd stay away from 'T3' units as you can get better quality for the price.
Also don't use the PSU Tier list, its a poor representation, is outdated and oversimplifies what a PSU does, there are more factors than just a rated wattage limit and rating.
@Leigh, I look at what the CPU etc. will draw under load, which say with an i5, a HDD, 16GB of RAM would be around 150w generously, then I look at what the power consumption of the graphics card will be, followed by other components if there are any, leaving a bit of headroom.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "the Hardware list...."

Here is my list of hardware. I already have some of the parts.

AMD FX-8370 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard

2 x ADATA XPG V2 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Toshiba X300 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card

Asus PCE-AC68 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter

2 x Zalman F1 Plus (SF) 80mm Fan

2 x Thermaltake Riing 12 LED Blue 40.6 CFM 120mm Fan

4 x Thermaltake Riing 14 LED Blue 51.1 CFM 140mm Fan

pcparkpicker.com i got the total of (396W

Newegg.com i got the recommended total of PSU Wattage: 516 W

So, since the highest that i got was 516W I'm thank i go for 600W

Is this already bought or are you looking for recommendations?

you max load according to outervision power supply calculator is 335 W
you already stated pcpartpiker calculated 396w

a 500w silver of gold psu will be fine

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "What should i stick with"

Ok, I got here, the parts so far..

1/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YRKOXNE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BYB2WF4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790
4/ 2 of these https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106329
5/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320293
6/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320293 2 more
7/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N83YW8246
8/ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487291
9/ and a AMD-FX 8350 or 70

do I need a single rail or rails. and how can i tell .DO i just get the Volts from all my hardware.

Raw wattage isn't the only metric to go by.

What you want to look at is the power it can output on it's 12V rail/rails and what efficiency it has.

What components do you have?

PSU calculators aren't reliable. list your parts here and we can decide.
generally I recommend a 550w PSu to any current build 1-2 years old because the parts don't use that much power anymore
never outright trust PSU calculators. take an expert's advice

If you post your parts then we will be able to tell more otherwise everybody is just guessing.

Raw wattage isn't the only metric to go by.

What you want to look at is the power it can output on it's 12V rail/rails and what efficiency it has.

What components do you have?

what do i look for

You already bought all of that? FX is a bad idea in 2017. Put your build together using pcpartpicker, and they will give you a decent wattage rating.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "calculating the PSU watts"

I'm building a great desktop, the first one i had in years that would work better. I'm installing
(AMD FX series 8-core.
(32Gb Ram 4 sticks 8Gb each
( I Video card Geforce
(1 LG DvD combo
(2 TBs of HDD
970 gaming M/B https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790
Wifi card
1 120mm fan, 4 120mm LED fans
2 80mm fans.
2 140mm LED fans
just been working on how mush PSU watts + extra that i need

http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator you can calculate the Watts that you need in this site , but its not so accurate , you have to insert the exact products . When you do that just make sure you are adding 150 watts more to the psu you need (pc needs 300 watts? search for 450-500 watt psu) .
Also make sure that the psu in 80+ bronze or 80+ silver or in the best case 80+ gold (more is a waste of money i think).

I personally just go to PcPartPicker and insert all my parts, then it adds up the max power usage of each part and displays it in the top right.

Outervision's PSU calculator is a whole lot better than some of the other calculators you may find in other sites. they at least bumped up the value just to be safe. with that in mind, you don't need to add an additional 150W to the calculation as nith95 said. i've seen a high end i7 with a 980Ti running on a 400W PSU despite Outervision recommending a max PSU of 600+W.

PCpartpickers's calculator isn't so bad either. but overall, you won't need to add any wattage from the initial result. you may however want to research on a good quality PSU

https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx

the list hasn't been updated in a while, so you may want to check up on JonnyGuru's review as well, but it should still make for a good starting reference.

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "The PSU RAIL"

Ok, about the rails, how do i know which rail that I need on a good PSU. My 9 fans that my case has each have 12v and my RAM which i have 2x8 each has 1.5v

Most PSUs are single rail but for ones with multirail system only real concern is power (Amperage) at PCIe rail for GPUs.

Wow, 9 fans are really much for a PC. Let´s calculate a bit. 9 fans á 0,1A = 11W.
That´s to be clear: not relevant for your future psu 😉

Which other hardware is built in? CPU, motherboard, graphics card, sound card, addon cards,....
or is it a prebuilt PC? Which make and model is it?

 

[Wolfshadw]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Leigh_2 : "single of multi PSU rails"

First off i have a
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211841
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320293
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211841
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4F94N13992
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N83YW8246
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487291
good TB HHD
AMD-FX series
would i just need a psu with a single rail

It doesn't have to matter. Just search for reviews on a certain PSU, I like JonnyGuru and Tom's Hardware. If the reviews are good, you're good to use it.
Seasoic S12II
Corsair CXM
Superflower Golden Green HX
XFX XT
--------More expensive ones:
Seasonic G, X, Prime
EVGA G2,G3
Corsair RMx, RMi

Those are of the top of my mind.

 

[genthug]

Holy mother of god.

 

[lakimens]

So many merges..