The future of Mac?

[69camaroSS]

Negative ghostrider the pattern is full, I am well aware of the big L and how to use it, though I havent in a while, but if you use windows properly...or any OS for that matter then you arent going to have problems. The number one source of problems on PC's or any computer for that matter is lack of ability to use it. We get just as many macs in our shop as we do PC's of any brand, except we are unable to fix them and the people that come in do not do any sort of editing for thier work or any other use, and just fell into the false advertising of mac

This is why I get angry and I'm glad to see someone else thinks like me. Also, glad to see this thread still alive.

 

[69camaroSS]

granted, i know a lot of people prefer macs for video and picture editing. but if your not in that category, i dont see the point.
right now, apple is riding the wave of die hard liberal adolescents. and adolescents now includes about 12- 35 year olds. and the connection between the commercials and politics by another poster is accurate. dont get me wrong, im no right-winger, but i despise ipod wearing tight jeans with holes people as the next guy

I think the only reason Video editors prefer Mac is that they are being brainwashed by that same community in universities and Hollywood. It's a myth being perpetuated by people who really haven't use Windows.

I say it again, I've use both and only the Mac crapped out on me (using OS) and it wasn't even something big. Two of them actually, and one is lying broken on a storage closet floor, because you have to take them to a Mac place to fix them.

The Government payed a lot of money for that big useless hunk of plastic.

 

[69camaroSS]

Indeed, for any form of graphics work they do the trick very nicely: Macs have stringent interface rules, and one does spend less time figuring out a new piece of software than they do on Windows.

I think that this is based on what you are use to. I can figure out Windows based software very well. Plenty intuitive for me.

 

[MrMr]

My first computer was a Mac. I loved it. It lasted for close to 3 years before I had to "upgrade. I went with a self built PC, only because I wanted to game with my friends. Had one hell of a time trying to figure out Windows, but it sunk in with time. As Mac's OS would if people gave it the time of day. At this point my PC has OSX loaded on a partition and I can dual boot into either windows or OSX. I find myself using both equally. It makes me laugh when I see the whole "Mac vs PC" debate. People who have never touched a Mac shoot it down and vice versa for the PC's.

 

[Mobius]

You get zero points for flamebaiting.

Honestly, what the fuck do you think you're doing?

It's the dumbest thread I've read in an age - and frankly, who gives a shit what you think? Macs have a legitimate market, and it seems incredibly unlikely their market share will drop any time soon - in fact, I'm willing to bet that they increase market share in the next 24 months.

Disclaimer: I own 6 PCs, 4 laptops, and a Mac Powerbook.

 

[axilon]

I think I read somewhere their Comp business has gained like 3% of the market for a total of 6%. Their campaign is working. Hell, in January I'm going to get a Mac Book Pro. (Mainly cause ITS SHINY AND PROPRIETARY!).. excuse me folks I am becoming a pariah in front of your eyes.

To be honest I've seen every threat about a Mac in this forum start off like this.

1st Post, Possible honest/decent question about a Mac.
2nd Post, KILL HIM WE HATE MAC I DRINK BLOOD OF SATAN.. or something else.
3rd Post, You are 2 noob to understand MAC SkIlLz.
4th Post, Mac's do stuff! We like Macs! They just aren't for everyone! (like Linux!)
5th Post, WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE A FLAME WAR ABOUT MAC IN A PC HARDWARE FORUM.

You can usually rinse and repeat and rearrange/duplicate this for about...I think the last one spanned over 10 pages of pure flammage.

The only Neat thing is that that 1st post... would be slammed in anyone's forum.. and for that I am somewhat happy about.

 

[kansur0]

I think the mac has a great future. I have been a PC user for years. I have been through so many editing systems that were complete garbage. Avid was a solid program but you had to have a Bachelor of Avid to run it. Final Cut Pro came along and blew everything else out of the water...at half the price. You could just sit down and edit...without a manual. Very intuitive. Creating a DVD was a sure thing. In most PC DVD creation programs you crossed your fingers and hoped that the DVD recorder would be recognized and that it would like the media you put into it. iDVD was drag, drop, and burn...with nice templates as a bonus.

The comment about the commercial where the PC is actually being used for creative stuff. Actually...what the mac people were saying in that commercial is that PC's hate doing creative stuff. That is why he looked so tired and worn out. He is used to doing "spreadsheets and word documents".
Macs are created for creativity sake. You buy it. It usually is powerful enough to do the work. You can't upgrade it...but who wants to tear apart a system and rebuild it when you can just put the whole system up on Ebay and actually get some money for it. Macs keep their value for that reason. Sure they start out expensive but they hold value. That is why buying a used mac isn't such a bad proposition...especially if it has the applecare warranty which is fully transferable.

I am still a PC user. I am also a mac user. I know both systems and if I need something specific done I pick the best system. If I want to do animation or play Battlefield 2 I use a PC. If I want to edit video...I use a mac.

As for the future of the mac? Read the above paragraph. Mac has now given people like me an all in one solution. Why do you think they might have done that? Maybe because they wanted to sell more hardware...or at least give people like me the option to run both operating systems without having to have a room full of computer gear. One machine...two operating systems. I still haven't made the decision to jump to the mac platform and rely on a dual boot system...but as time progresses and hardware gets so cheap that even a mac is affordable...along with the seamless integration of Bootcamp...a mac would seem to be the way to go.

One last thing. There must be a reason why mac is gaining market share. It might be because people are tired of having to choose between 7 different versions of Windows when Vista comes out. Mac...one OS...no matter what machine you choose to use.

And for all the mac snobs out there...anyone can own a mac. All you have to do is reach into your back pocket and get out your credit card. It isn't an elitist thing...something that makes you of higher intelligence just because you can use a mac and get things done on it.

As for the PC users...some people like to hot rod. Overclock. Get the most bang for thier buck and endure the hardships of drivers and making every single piece of the puzzle work. When you do figure it out...it feels good. Don't hate mac users just because they don't want to take apart stuff to get it to work.

Use what works for you. Don't hate others because they made a choice you didn't. Don't make a choice that you think will make you elite. It won't.

Peace.

 

[thetanman]

I use a PC and a MacBook Pro, and apple's OS is very solid. Within 5 years, when compatibility issues subside and web 2.0+ takes care of the rest, I think Microsoft & PC's market share will only be eaten away further. For the majority of business applications, Mac meets most people's needs and without the hassle us geeks take for granted knowing how to overcome. Plus, the hardware and GUI are very sexy. Apple has become a status symbol, which is hard to find in the PC arena.

 

[LikesMacsToo]

I"ve used macs from the 1st as well as PC's. I have used them professionally in printing/graphics where MACs really shine and PCs really suck. HOWEVER, at home I use and build PC's so I can play cool games and where MACs suck. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[mitch074]

I don't agree: Windows softwares change design and shortcuts from one app to the other quite drastically, even amongst products from the same editor (try your Office 2000 shortcuts with Office 2005, cry; try Win98 hotkeys with Vista, run for cover), and I won't even mention shortcuts for a software coming from different editors - the only constant ones are those MS got from Apple (Ctrl+C/X/V).
On a Mac, interface is basically: one hand on keyboard, one on mouse (with a single button), and switch actions depending on keys pressed.

Good luck finding equivalent stuff on Windows.

I haven't used a Mac in a while actually, and when I did I was still pretty much a Windows power user; I found Windows interface clunky and odd afterwards.

Now under Linux, I've gotten used to the power of the CLI (nothing better when one requires to start an app, a batch job and a sound player without leaving his main window from sight).