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Ok for one .. its not locked up if you have a mac you would understand that you can load your own converted movies ... and music.. onto it .. not to mention you have a much larger screen .. to watch a movie with it sure as hell beats out one of those little tube tv's from the 80 and 90's 19inch or a 20 inch this thing rocks not to mention the maps are much larger and better defined and so is the video ... not to mention 3g option .. you cant tell me thats not useful .. it would of been nice to have a dumbed down version of snow lepard on it but you cant say its not many times better than the kindal is personally i find a black and white screen dull and dinosaur like .. reminds me of a calculator one of the last things i want to think about .. as far as being a viable computer its not meant to be a computer so much so as a all inclusive media platform .. net books are cheap and generic to me and would rather spend more money on a better hardware package that can at least play wow! and thats pretty basic.. and the book and music and apps is a great ... ok so the only con i have in mind is the fact that its not out yet .. the main reason is i could use it on my breaks and when im at a friends house and i wont have lug a big bag around with all my laptop stuff and its light really light ..like a 1.5lbs .. about the same as a college rule notebook .. i pod touch screen is too small .. to enjoy for much other than music and basic apps .. as time go's on you will start to change your mind trust me!
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"its not locked up if you have a mac you would understand that you can load your own converted movies ... and music.. onto it"
there are no devices out there that are 'media locked' that's close to suicide, like saying you cant have your own photo's on your own device, when this device is referred to as locked, it means you can't dl any other apps then the 'app store' sanctioned ones, sure you could probably use the just announced SDK but then you have to run the gauntlet of getting your app through the apple app store approval process
"its not locked up if you have a mac you would understand that you can load your own converted movies ... and music.. onto it"
there are no devices out there that are 'media locked' that's close to suicide, like saying you cant have your own photo's on your own device, when this device is referred to as locked, it means you can't dl any other apps then the 'app store' sanctioned ones, sure you could probably use the just announced SDK but then you have to run the gauntlet of getting your app through the apple app store approval process
With all due respect, I don't think most of you have caught the vision of the iPad. When the mini mainframe was introduced it largely replaced the mainframe computer. When workstations were introduced, they largely replaced the mini mainframe. When PCs were introduced, they largely replaced the workstations. Apple understands that there will be a new era of computers that largely replaces the PC. Apple believes this new era will be the mobile computing era.
If you look at the what people do with PCs today, you will discover that most of them are used most of the time to surf the Internet, read and write email, organize and display photos, and provide some entertainment. Apple also understands that the PC is very poorly suited for this task. The iPad will perform most of these tasks better and less expensively than any PC. It will also allow people to do it where they want to do it.
Apple is creating the world's first family of mobile computing products: iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, and if I am correct, the AppleTV will soon be based on this platform. While Google has different platforms for phones (Android) and netbooks (Chrome), Apple will create a single mobile computing platform that is completely compatible across all devices. This will make the software that runs on its platform less expensive and easier to develop—resulting in many times more applications. So while those without vision complain that Apple didn't adhere to an ancient approach to computing, Apple will go on to create the new computing platform that will largely displace the PC and dominate the technological landscape for the next 20-30 years.
So, whether you are an Apple lover or hater, there is brilliance and beauty in what Apple has created—and enormous potential for it to lead us into the future. You would be wise to keep in mind that the iPad is not a product, it is a part of a whole system that includes a development environment, a marketplace (iTunes Store/App Store/iBook Store), and a device—all meticulously designed to improve the user experience. It would be foolish to esteem this ecosystem to lightly as most of Apple's competitors have done.
If you look at the what people do with PCs today, you will discover that most of them are used most of the time to surf the Internet, read and write email, organize and display photos, and provide some entertainment. Apple also understands that the PC is very poorly suited for this task. The iPad will perform most of these tasks better and less expensively than any PC. It will also allow people to do it where they want to do it.
Apple is creating the world's first family of mobile computing products: iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, and if I am correct, the AppleTV will soon be based on this platform. While Google has different platforms for phones (Android) and netbooks (Chrome), Apple will create a single mobile computing platform that is completely compatible across all devices. This will make the software that runs on its platform less expensive and easier to develop—resulting in many times more applications. So while those without vision complain that Apple didn't adhere to an ancient approach to computing, Apple will go on to create the new computing platform that will largely displace the PC and dominate the technological landscape for the next 20-30 years.
So, whether you are an Apple lover or hater, there is brilliance and beauty in what Apple has created—and enormous potential for it to lead us into the future. You would be wise to keep in mind that the iPad is not a product, it is a part of a whole system that includes a development environment, a marketplace (iTunes Store/App Store/iBook Store), and a device—all meticulously designed to improve the user experience. It would be foolish to esteem this ecosystem to lightly as most of Apple's competitors have done.
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[citation][nom]Insightful[/nom]Apple is creating the world's first family of mobile computing products: iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, and if I am correct, the AppleTV will soon be based on this platform. While Google has different platforms for phones (Android) and netbooks (Chrome), Apple will create a single mobile computing platform that is completely compatible across all devices. This will make the software that runs on its platform less expensive and easier to develop—resulting in many times more applications.[/citation]
You bring up a good point. Though I did expect more and was disappointed overall by today's announcement, it is a good step forward in the grand scheme of things for Apple. Take a familiar product and expand it to a greater audience.
As I mentioned earlier, I hope that if there are future iterations of the tablet, 1)Apple will choose a better, more appealing name, 2)performance will be brought up to a level to match the hype, and 3)they keep it as sexy as it is, or make it sexier.
I am admittedly not a fan of Apple, but there's no denying their appeal when it comes to portable electronics. They've monopolized the media player industry because made their products easily recognizable, easy to use, and, most of all, an object of desire. I would like to see an Apple tablet succeed. Here's to next year (maybe)
You bring up a good point. Though I did expect more and was disappointed overall by today's announcement, it is a good step forward in the grand scheme of things for Apple. Take a familiar product and expand it to a greater audience.
As I mentioned earlier, I hope that if there are future iterations of the tablet, 1)Apple will choose a better, more appealing name, 2)performance will be brought up to a level to match the hype, and 3)they keep it as sexy as it is, or make it sexier.
I am admittedly not a fan of Apple, but there's no denying their appeal when it comes to portable electronics. They've monopolized the media player industry because made their products easily recognizable, easy to use, and, most of all, an object of desire. I would like to see an Apple tablet succeed. Here's to next year (maybe)
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[citation][nom]dheadley[/nom]I don't agree with it being a failure.
It is not to replace their phone, it not to replace their computer. It's the Touch XL with more performance and higher resolution.
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Kinda makes it a luxury, though, don't you think?
Also, if it neither replaces a laptop nor a phone, does that mean we now have to drag around *three* devices when traveling?
It is not to replace their phone, it not to replace their computer. It's the Touch XL with more performance and higher resolution.
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Kinda makes it a luxury, though, don't you think?
Also, if it neither replaces a laptop nor a phone, does that mean we now have to drag around *three* devices when traveling?
Ease up on the apple kool-aid buddy. You're trying to argue that 90% of users don't know what multitasking is? Yeah I suppose only 10% of PC users browse the internet, checking their email, and watching a movie at the same time. Oh wait, I'm doing all those things right now. Maybe I'll open up a pdf and word while I'm at it too...5 things at once must just boggle your simplistic Apple mind!
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[citation][nom]hixbot[/nom]deadlockedworld you are wrong, the apps store and itunes make apple a fortune. yes hardware makes them alot too, but tuan is right, they design these things as a closed system because the real money is in software. they could move much more hardware with an open os, but they are more interested in selling apps.[/citation]
No, not yet. I agree that they see that as their future. But it's not reflected in the latest results for Q1 of the 2010 fiscal year. iTunes Store and similar (Apple lists that as "Other Music Related Products and Services" in its balance sheet) accounted for less than 7% of Apple's revenue ($1.164 billion out of total revenues of $15.683 billion).
No, not yet. I agree that they see that as their future. But it's not reflected in the latest results for Q1 of the 2010 fiscal year. iTunes Store and similar (Apple lists that as "Other Music Related Products and Services" in its balance sheet) accounted for less than 7% of Apple's revenue ($1.164 billion out of total revenues of $15.683 billion).
This may end up being an iBlunder. Apple's continued "closed system" approach is eventually going to bite them in the financial a$$. You can't do this with every gadget you invent and expect the eager public will continue to drink your kool-aid -- doesn't work that way.
Sure, the iPad has Apple's very own A4 processor - and I wonder if it has some treats in store for the unwary consumer (DRM, lockdown and anti-jailbreak features). Who knows.
I see it this way: if I buy a computer, why would I do so if I can only run certain applications on it? That's just plain stupid.
Sure, the iPad has Apple's very own A4 processor - and I wonder if it has some treats in store for the unwary consumer (DRM, lockdown and anti-jailbreak features). Who knows.
I see it this way: if I buy a computer, why would I do so if I can only run certain applications on it? That's just plain stupid.
Very disappointed. The iPad shoud have been something capable of competing with a ultralight laptop, something like a MacBook Air with smaller screen and no keyboard. And it turns out to be more like a (too-)big iPhone or iTouch. So in my opinion is too big for its reduced functionality.
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[citation][nom]razorblaze42[/nom]I respectfully disagree with the majority. Since it’s competitively priced against the Kindle DX, but has more functionality, I think it’s promising. Could it be better? Sure, but it’s a start in the right direction. I can see this replacing a netbook in a lot of cases where the users only want to surf the web or send/check emails. I’m sure it will evolve very quickly.[/citation]
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I think your's may seem valid, but this device is not priced competatively as the Kindle is also massively overpriced for it's limited features.
Compared to a netbook with XP or 7, if there are any video or audio formats it cannot see then codecs can be installed. Even OSX could have done that, but the iPad will not. The apps store is a massive cashcow and nothing else. The rule of business is you can afford to sell an expensive product cheaply if you get the cost back through software revenues, exactly as games consoles do. So if every single additional bit of software is going to cost you money then the device itself should cost less. Charging high for both is blatant profiteering.
I propose a new name for this device.
iPaid (too much)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I think your's may seem valid, but this device is not priced competatively as the Kindle is also massively overpriced for it's limited features.
Compared to a netbook with XP or 7, if there are any video or audio formats it cannot see then codecs can be installed. Even OSX could have done that, but the iPad will not. The apps store is a massive cashcow and nothing else. The rule of business is you can afford to sell an expensive product cheaply if you get the cost back through software revenues, exactly as games consoles do. So if every single additional bit of software is going to cost you money then the device itself should cost less. Charging high for both is blatant profiteering.
I propose a new name for this device.
iPaid (too much)
It's a color kindle that plays games and has better web browsing support. From that standpoint, I could see a market for it.
But Jobsie-boy comparing it to a laptop? Saying it's better than a laptop? What a joke. Magical? What kind of magic mushrooms has he been eating? Forget netbooks, get any laptop in the $600 range, and you get better hardware, better looking, more advanced games, a real OS, basically any software you want to run, and you can do more than one thing at once. Listen to music while surfing the web? What a concept! Revolutionary!
What's my point? If I was in the market for an iPhone, I'd get an iPhone. If I was in the market for a laptop, I'd get a laptop. If I was in the market for a Kindle, I'd consider the iPad instead. That's where apple should be marketing this.
But Jobsie-boy comparing it to a laptop? Saying it's better than a laptop? What a joke. Magical? What kind of magic mushrooms has he been eating? Forget netbooks, get any laptop in the $600 range, and you get better hardware, better looking, more advanced games, a real OS, basically any software you want to run, and you can do more than one thing at once. Listen to music while surfing the web? What a concept! Revolutionary!
What's my point? If I was in the market for an iPhone, I'd get an iPhone. If I was in the market for a laptop, I'd get a laptop. If I was in the market for a Kindle, I'd consider the iPad instead. That's where apple should be marketing this.
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[citation][nom]supa721[/nom]Good that you express your opinion, but don't call it the truth.If something isn't for you, doesn't mean it isn't useful or fun for others to enjoy.[/citation]
There is no truth, there is only opinion.
Is there a market for this?
Yes, but then again there is a market for 200 year old paintings by dead artists that go for $100 million.
Is it value for money?
Well if you consider paying twice the money for something that does half as much, I suppose yes again.
Is it innovative?
If you consider innovative to be taking a concept that has been around for over 20 years and actual products that have been around approx 9 years then giving it less connectivity, accessibility, upgradability, functionality - but making it "thinner" - then yes, it is innovative.
Opinion is a wonderful thing, i'm sure no single snowflake thinks it is responsible for the avalanche. This device is a total fraud.
In my opinion.
There is no truth, there is only opinion.
Is there a market for this?
Yes, but then again there is a market for 200 year old paintings by dead artists that go for $100 million.
Is it value for money?
Well if you consider paying twice the money for something that does half as much, I suppose yes again.
Is it innovative?
If you consider innovative to be taking a concept that has been around for over 20 years and actual products that have been around approx 9 years then giving it less connectivity, accessibility, upgradability, functionality - but making it "thinner" - then yes, it is innovative.
Opinion is a wonderful thing, i'm sure no single snowflake thinks it is responsible for the avalanche. This device is a total fraud.
In my opinion.
I hate apple. The reason why I hate apple is that as bad as this product may seem, Apple will still come out a winner. The will make Billions from the app catalog alone. I thought the original ipod would never make it because you had to use there format, you couldn't use a memory card, and it cost 3 times as much as a sandisk sansa. But I was totally wrong, I think non technical people realy embrased it and the downfall of napster really gave a path for apple to come up with itunes.
So anyway, I hope it fails, but it probably will be embraced by the non techies, and apples stock will go up even more.
So anyway, I hope it fails, but it probably will be embraced by the non techies, and apples stock will go up even more.
I'm wondering how will people like to put down the tablet flat on the table to type something on the keyboard with two hands?
I'm also wondering if the tablet is shipped with protective case already... Smells like scratched back!
Protection covers companies are gonna make a $hitload of money with that!
I'm also wondering if the tablet is shipped with protective case already... Smells like scratched back!
Protection covers companies are gonna make a $hitload of money with that!
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iPad = epic failure - and this is coming from an Apple fan! In what way is this monstrosity "magical" or "revolutionary"? It's merely a giant iPhone/iPod Touch with a ridiculous name! This is the most disappointing product announcement from Apple. Period. (pun intended)
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Didnt CES have some better tablets. I even thought some of them were better looking. Here is what I want. I want a 7 inch widescreen 720p (1080 is kinda overkill)screen. I want something that runs windows 7. I want that battery life that the ipad claims. I want to read books, watch movies, photo's. I want a tablet netbook with ion. and a 720p screen. Throw a couple camera's in there if you want to. Also I want wireless n. Hdmi, Bluetooth, and maybe a hooker. Oh and all for under 400. Thanks
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