Question Theoretical Builds...

[drjohnnyfever]

Does anyone know of a program like PassMark in which one could place one's parts list and get a range of its potential performance? Or is there a way using a simple program for one to aggregate performance from a parts list? I ask because I have students who are interested in building PC's but the school doesn't have the budget to buy PC's and parts for even 5% of classes. I think it would be very engaging for them to see the results of the choices they make for parts given certain requirements like cost and performance in a simple way like PassMark does with it's test of actual builds.

 

[COLGeek]

I am unaware of a program to do, specifically what you are asking, but there are these resources to see how systems relatively perform:

https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboards/superposition/1.x/1080p-extreme/single-gpu/page-1

PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks

PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - Over 1 million CPUs and 1,000 models benchmarked and compared in graph form, updated daily!

www.cpubenchmark.net

 

[drjohnnyfever]

I am unaware of a program to do, specifically what you are asking, but there are these resources to see how systems relatively perform:

https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboards/superposition/1.x/1080p-extreme/single-gpu/page-1

PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks

PassMark Software - CPU Benchmarks - Over 1 million CPUs and 1,000 models benchmarked and compared in graph form, updated daily!

www.cpubenchmark.net

Thanks for these. I'm not opposed to having the students do all of the addition for total scores etc., but I was wondering about an integrated program where one could input the parts, perhaps from Part Picker, to have some kind of aggregated approximation of real performance. Part Picker would be part of the process of the assignment anyway, in that they would have a price point, required parts, and a required compatibility component. I also have to consider whether many of these sites would be allowed thru the firewall, which is somewhat strict, despite many students already jail-breaking those restrictions to play games, etc.

I did notice that Epic Games has a PC Building Simulator. I don't imagine I'd be able to be convincing enough to accomplish getting that site thru the firewall, tho. lol

 

[COLGeek]

As stated earlier, I am not aware of any integrated solution that can simulate a build and provide an estimate of its relative performance. As you know, that are a multitude of factors that go into a PCs performance.

I would not even begin to teach your students anything close to bypassing school network security measures. First rule for me would be to undo those bypassing measures (you mention jailbreak so I assume Apple products, rooting refers to Android devices).

Do you have the resources to pay for PC Building Simulator (on Steam as well)?

I would suggest reaching out to Intel and AMD for possible grants to better enable future classes:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...ity/intel-foundation-employee-generosity.html

https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/corporate-responsibility/learninglabs.html

There are other programs as well. For example:

https://stemfinity.com/pages/stem-grants-maryland

 

[lantis3]

Buy 2nd hands Intel 3rd (DDR3) /4th gen (DDR4) CPU PC / laptop in mass if the school doesn't even have 5% budget.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

As stated earlier, I am not aware of any integrated solution that can simulate a build and provide an estimate of its relative performance. As you know, that are a multitude of factors that go into a PCs performance.

I would not even begin to teach your students anything close to bypassing school network security measures. First rule for me would be to undo those bypassing measures (you mention jailbreak so I assume Apple products, rooting refers to Android devices).

Do you have the resources to pay for PC Building Simulator (on Steam as well)?

I would suggest reaching out to Intel and AMD for possible grants to better enable future classes:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...ity/intel-foundation-employee-generosity.html

https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/corporate-responsibility/learninglabs.html

There are other programs as well. For example:

https://stemfinity.com/pages/stem-grants-maryland

I'm not advocating bypassing the system's firewall. I'm not certain how you would come to that idea. I'm merely stating that many student's have already done this with their devices to play games. The system knows who has done this and continues to drag it's feet on holding this LARGE number of students accountable. I certainly wouldn't endorse using disallowed software or websites simply because students already have devices which they have illegally altered. I want it to all conform to the system's firewall parameters and internet policies.

What I'm seeking is quite the opposite and I think pretty clearly stated, a site or software program that would pass firewall muster which students could use to build PC's virtually according to specific parameters.

Buy 2nd hands Intel 3rd (DDR3) /4th gen (DDR4) CPU PC / laptop in mass if the school doesn't even have 5% budget.

I'm not looking to actually buy or build the PC's at this time. That would be a program that might result from this project's success. What I would like is a more streamlined method for students to evaluate the choices they make, by inputting data into a software or web-based product that evaluates the relative success of those parts, much as a benchmark program would do for a completed PC build.

 

[COLGeek]

I'm not advocating bypassing the system's firewall. I'm not certain how you would come to that idea. I'm merely stating that many student's have already done this with their devices to play games. The system knows who has done this and continues to drag it's feet on holding this LARGE number of students accountable. I certainly wouldn't endorse using disallowed software or websites simply because students already have devices which they have illegally altered. I want it to all conform to the system's firewall parameters and internet policies.

What I'm seeking is quite the opposite and I think pretty clearly stated, a site or software program that would pass firewall muster which students could use to build PC's virtually according to specific parameters.


I'm not looking to actually buy or build the PC's at this time. That would be a program that might result from this project's success. What I would like is a more streamlined method for students to evaluate the choices they make, by inputting data into a software or web-based product that evaluates the relative success of those parts, much as a benchmark program would do for a completed PC build.

Let me rephrase. The price of admission to the class could be to properly reset/reconfigure the devices to be compliant with school policies.

What hardware is the typical student device? So many schools use Chromebooks these days.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

@COLGeek They use Chromebooks. I agree on resetting devices for this class - for all classes.

Found this with a little poking around... https://www.pcbenchmarks.net/builder.php

That one has the important parts for a start. Maybe not as detailed as I imagined...

 

[COLGeek]

@COLGeek They use Chromebooks. I agree on resetting devices for this class - for all classes.

Found this with a little poking around... https://www.pcbenchmarks.net/builder.php

That one has the important parts for a start. Maybe not as detailed as I imagined...

Looks like it draws from their database. Fairly rudimentary, but does give some ability to do what you are looking for, albeit limited.

My quick look should it lags a bit in terms of generations of tech.